Silencer: If Sheila's blood was planted what about David & Pamela's blood group?

[Cambridgecutie]

  What, kinda, pricked his finger, plucked an hair and scratched the Aga.

Yes mention it to Jeremy when you write to him, it could be in the next Submission, Stan the AGA man.

Yes and I must remember to let him know that in addition to fabricating the OUTSIDE of the silencer he is the most likely culprit for emptying NB's wallet. 

[Hardy Boy]

Well it was well out of the way for me.  It's West Ham territory.  I thought you were based ooop North?

Do you use the Cambridge Busway cutie, i sometimes cycle along that route either from Peterborough or come in from Ely.  I go to Great Shelford on the Campsite, iv'e done it three times now.  Couldn't believe the Busway, never seen anything like that.

[Cambridgecutie]

So according to you DS Jones was ....
He was an experienced officer.

Yes circa 25 years

A relatively junior officer who had no experience of a mass shooting

Junior by way of rank.  None of the officers had experience of a mass shooting.  It was pre Hungerford.  Name another mass shooting in the UK that DS Jones was involved in?  Mass shootings or any shooting incident are rare in the UK thanks to our licensing laws.

He was not a SOCO officer

No.  The SOCO's were DI Cook, DS Davidson and DC Hammersley.  DC Bird?
 

He was forensically aware

Yes by the standards of the day and based on his circa 25 years experience

Which is it or does it just depend on which argument your forcing?

No contradictions. 

[Cambridgecutie]

Do you use the Cambridge Busway cutie, i sometimes cycle along that route either from Peterborough or come in from Ely.  I go to Great Shelford on the Campsite, iv'e done it three times now.  Couldn't believe the Busway, never seen anything like that.

I was born in Cambridge but now live some 30 miles south west.  I visit often.  About twice a month.  We will have to meet up for a beer sometime.  I like brunch at Fitzbillies on a Sunday. 

[snow66!]

So what? He can still write something in the wrong book and not he hauled over the coals for it!

He was the family liaison officer, he built up a rapport with members of the family - that was his job. Not too long ago you stated that he was forensically aware so surely (especially as he was such an experienced officer), he could be trusted to deliver a piece of evidence that had already been handled by most of the family? One minute he should be perfect in every way, the next - not to be trusted with things YOU DEEM outside his ability? I guess you don't think he was A Team material? 

Pity the A-Team hadn't been hired to shoot the family, that way no one would have died!

[snow66!]

Please answer my question. Third request.

If SJ fabricated the silencer 'single handedly', did he then ask the relatives to create false WS's & lie under oath to say they found it?

Well,the relatives were probably asked to add several bits of evidence to their statements Adam, including the blood stained knickers once Stan found out fron Vanezis that it was Sheila's time of the month!

[ILB]

So according to you DS Jones was ....
He was an experienced officer.
A relatively junior officer who had no experience of a mass shooting
He was not a SOCO officer
He was forensically aware

Which is it or does it just depend on which argument your forcing?

He was a senior officer. A member of rank of CID. One below a DI.

Quite why she puts him as a junior I have no idea.

[Cambridgecutie]

He was a senior officer. A member of rank of CID. One below a DI.

Quite why she puts him as a junior I have no idea.

There are 9 ranks:

1.Constable
2.Sergeant
3.Inspector
4.Chief Inspector
5.Superintendent
6.Chief Superintendent
7.Assistant Chief Constable
8.Deputy Chief Constable
9.Chief Constable

The lowest marked 1 above is constable.  The highest marked 9 above is chief constable.  DS Jones was a sergeant marked 2 above.  That rank is 1 above the lowest.  Or 7 below the highest.  He was 2/9.  He was nowhere near senior as you claim.  What is difficult to understand about that? 

He had circa 25 years under his belt.  He was either happy with his position or his superiors did not think he was suitable for progression. 

[Zoso]

FLO's were not introduced in UK policing until 1999:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_liaison_officer

The term may not have been introduced until then, but that was his role.

[Zoso]

Yes circa 25 years

Junior by way of rank.  None of the officers had experience of a mass shooting.  It was pre Hungerford.  Name another mass shooting in the UK that DS Jones was involved in?  Mass shootings or any shooting incident are rare in the UK thanks to our licensing laws.

No.  The SOCO's were DI Cook, DS Davidson and DC Hammersley.  DC Bird?
 
Yes by the standards of the day and based on his circa 25 years experience

No contradictions.

You're all over the place 

[Hardy Boy]

You're all over the place 

OH yes, her only way out now.................. after parting ways with TAFF on the Friday Evening the 9th of Aug she has put Stan climbing through WHF window or [having a key cut]  locating the silencer, Pricking his OWN finger, scratching the AGA, and then plucking his hair, then hidng the silencer in the hope the relatives find it? 

[Cambridgecutie]

The term may not have been introduced until then, but that was his role.

Well as ILB said he clearly wasn't FLO material with his comment to JB telling him to accept the fact his family are dead only minutes after being told.  And as ILB said today, he would be put on sandwich duty and the comment would trigger an internal inquiry.

[Cambridgecutie]

The term may not have been introduced until then, but that was his role.

And who was assigned the role when DS Jones went on leave circa mid Aug according to HB? 

[Hardy Boy]

And who was assigned the role when DS Jones went on leave circa mid Aug according to HB?

Not according to HB, According to DC barlow,  i said he took over from DC Jones, he was asked to look after the case.

[Cambridgecutie]

OH yes, her only way out now.................. after parting ways with TAFF on the Friday Evening the 9th of Aug she has put Stan climbing through WHF window or [having a key cut]  locating the silencer, Pricking his OWN finger, scratching the AGA, and then plucking his hair, then hidng the silencer in the hope the relatives find it?

Or using some kind of skeleton key.  He was an experienced police officer with much of his service pre PACE.  He would be use to finding ways to enter apparently locked buildings.  See the image of the police entering SC's via a window.

He knew where the silencer was located from AP.

Yes he used his own blood knowing that tiny bloodstains at that time were incapable of grouping. 

Yes he scratched the AGA having already had a look at SOC images.

No he didn't pluck a hair from his own head.  That's silly.  He was mainly dark and NB was grey.  It would be easy to locate NB's hair on combs, brushes, outerwear, hats.  It would be all over the place.  I assume the inference with the hair was that the silencer was on when NB sustained a beating with an object thought to be the rifle. 

He didn't need to hide the silencer.  It was simply popped back in its rightful place.  And if they hadn't found it when they did he could simply have slipped it into a conversation later eg 'Oh btw did you find the silencer'?

And before he left he helped himself to the contents of NB's wallet.