Author Topic: Silencer: If Sheila's blood was planted what about David & Pamela's blood group?  (Read 10998 times)

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Offline Zoso

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He was an experienced officer.  Circa a quarter of a century under his belt.  It stands to reason he would be offay with the 'property register'.

Why did he go to Oak farm to collect the silencer?  He was not a SOCO officer.  Why did he not take an exhibit bag and label?

So according to you DS Jones was ....
He was an experienced officer.
A relatively junior officer who had no experience of a mass shooting
He was not a SOCO officer
He was forensically aware

Which is it or does it just depend on which argument your forcing?

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Could be worse i suppose, i was  watching that Shower of Shite yesterday get hammered.

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I don't understand that.

Currently 89 pieces of sourced forensic evidence. Thread on forum.

The amount does increase as new pieces are found.

Over 200 pieces of forensic & circumstantial evidence combined. Thread on forum.

Bollocks
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Offline Adam

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By all accounts a model prisoner.

Bollocks.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

Offline Cambridgecutie

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DB expalins when they called Police and the little relevance thay put to the Silencer?  Again, if they rang immediatly is it possible they hadn't spotted anything at this stage on the silencer and didn't mention the blood?

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=632.0;attach=19340;image

According to DI Cook (COLP) he received a tel call, noon on 12th Aug, from DS Jones stating that the relatives had found a silencer with blood on. 

Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Offline Adam

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Switch to WSL  8)

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Please answer my question. Third request.

If SJ fabricated the silencer 'single handedly', did he then ask the relatives to create false WS's & lie under oath to say they found it?
« Last Edit: September 30, 2024, 07:51:PM by Adam »
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Offline Hardy Boy

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According to DI Cook (COLP) he received a tel call, noon on 12th Aug, from DS Jones stating that the relatives had found a silencer with blood on.
Sorry we don't accept COLP reports  six years afterwards, case dismissed.

Offline Hardy Boy

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According to DI Cook (COLP) he received a tel call, noon on 12th Aug, from DS Jones stating that the relatives had found a silencer with blood on.
So they Phoned twice, they still didn't go, thats why RWB went down and played hell up,  are you now accepting there was blood on it and it was impossible for Stan to be involved, the phone call now proves it, or are we dismissing this COLP report six years later.

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Slept with hundreds of woman while his wife stayed at home, no time for the man and no respect and its not Unusal to think that way.  Surprised Cutie has has gone to see him actually i thought SHE'S A LADY with morals, and anti MAN'S MAN'S WORLD?

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Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Offline Cambridgecutie

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So they Phoned twice, they still didn't go, thats why RWB went down and played hell up,  are you now accepting there was blood on it and it was impossible for Stan to be involved, the phone call now proves it, or are we dismissing this COLP report six years later.

Assuming DI Cook is correct in his recollection how does it preclude DS Jones fabricating?
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
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Please answer my question. Third request.

If SJ fabricated the silencer 'single handedly', did he then ask the relatives to create false WS's & lie under oath to say they found it?

CC cannot answer.

Back to square one for her.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2024, 08:13:PM by Adam »
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Offline Cambridgecutie

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Yep, he was the family liaison officer!

Test now show the evidence was fabricated? What tests? Tests the A Team carried out?

FLO's were not introduced in UK policing until 1999:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_liaison_officer
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Offline Cambridgecutie

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So what? He can still write something in the wrong book and not he hauled over the coals for it!

He was the family liaison officer, he built up a rapport with members of the family - that was his job. Not too long ago you stated that he was forensically aware so surely (especially as he was such an experienced officer), he could be trusted to deliver a piece of evidence that had already been handled by most of the family? One minute he should be perfect in every way, the next - not to be trusted with things YOU DEEM outside his ability? I guess you don't think he was A Team material?  ;D

FLO's were not introduced in UK policing (or should that be England? Eng/Wales?  Eng/Wales/NI?) until 1999:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_liaison_officer

He was an experienced officer, circa 25 years, and yes forensically aware by the standards of the day but he was not a SOCO.  Why not send a SOCO?  And it appears he was aware it contained a spot of blood on it before he collected it so why not take an exhibit bag and label?
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

Offline Cambridgecutie

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The relatives must have been aware if SJ fabricated the silencer 'single handedly'.

He asked them to create false WS's & lie under oath!

Not necessarily.  He could have had access to WHF on the evening of Fri 9th Aug. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

Offline Hardy Boy

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Assuming DI Cook is correct in his recollection how does it preclude DS Jones fabricating?
Well how does he do this if the relatives have phoned to say they have found the silencer with blood on it?

Yes DS Jones contaminated the silencer single handedly with regards to the actual contaminants but I am unsure as to whether the relative(s) were aware or unaware.

Are you now going back to Stan Nipping in to WHF before the relatives and contaminating the silencer?