Truth serum

[Adam]

It has been claimed that the person now being judged is accused of giving "conflicting explanations for why in PMs to other members here" There is irony in in the following claim that "it's unlikely you'd ever get an honest answer". One has to wonder how it may be possible for a member to know what PMs are being sent to other members and/or how may the integrity of the poster revealing such be trusted given the obvious 'history' they have. Might there be something here about a bruised ego? Might there be a warning here to posters to think twice about who they send PMs to?

This certainly isn't the first time the forum has been 'duped'. It's unlikely to be the last. It's standard practice where big egos congregate and they try to outdo each other. It's of no moment whether or not person A is telling the truth. They'll very likely be accused of lying if they are.

At the end of the day, I don't think this person's status as either detractor or supporter is important. Good posts will always be worth reading. It would be arrogant to believe that the contents of this forum will provide the means to JB's release, but it does provide an interest for its members on both sides of the argument.

It may be a case that she believed  what she was posting, but has an ulterior motive for being a supporter.

I look forward to her new theories.

She has recently said what Bamber says can't be trusted. If she retracts on this she will have to agree he had an AM. She refused to accept that even as a pretend guilter!

[David1819]

Or didn't believe in what she was posting.  In which case why post it?

A very strange 4 years.

Probably a combination of boredom, immaturity, drink and feelings of resentment towards JB supporters?

[Zoso]

I think people get too concerned over what other people believe and that becomes the debate rather than the actual case. It doesn't really matter what someone else thinks, as long as you're sure in your own mind about your own thoughts, even if that means you're innocent, guilty or on the fence.

 

[Jane]

I think people get too concerned over what other people believe and that becomes the debate rather than the actual case. It doesn't really matter what someone else thinks, as long as you're sure in your own mind about your own thoughts, even if that means you're innocent, guilty or on the fence.

It's always sad when forum hiccoughs -and as hiccoughs go, this is a minor one- cause an hiatus which prevents some members from posting. It may also allows posts, which are little more than insults, because of personal histories/resentments space to be read, rather than ignored.

[snow66!]

I agree it is amusing, but it is still very low grade posting.

Yes,low grade and childish ngb!
Unfortunately,thats the kind of humour I tend to chuckle at!

[David1819]

You could always give her some "truth serum" )

She is on a form of truth serum all the time. Hence her cover keeps getting blown.

[Roch]

She is on a form of truth serum all the time. Hence her cover keeps getting blown.

This isn't the best truth serum.. but it's all I have tonight. Plus some Talisker.

[ILB]

This isn't the best truth serum.. but it's all I have tonight. Plus some Talisker.

Duval?

Bosh!!

[Roch]

Duval?

Bosh!!

What's your poison ILB?

[ILB]

What's your poison ILB?

My Mrs haha

[Cambridgecutie]

Better late than never. Has been a member for over 4 years.

I know the ulterior motives why supporters support Bamber. But never understood CC's reason for doing the opposite.

Secondment 

[Cambridgecutie]

I agree that the sound moderator evidence heavily influenced the jury's decision.

They also asked Bamber why Robert Boutflour would have lied about Bamber talking about killing his parents, and to that question Bamber gave a vague and unconvincing response.

No it wasn't the jury that asked the question it was the prosecutor:

423. June Bamber's sister, Pamela, was married to Robert Boutflour. He gave evidence that in about March 1985 the appellant had made a remark "Oh Uncle Bobby, I could kill anybody. I could easily kill my parents." This allegation was categorically denied by the appellant, and when he was in the witness box and under cross-examination he was asked by Mr Arlidge QC whether he knew of any reason that Mr Boutflour might have for making such an untrue allegation. The appellant's reply was (transcript PMS/15 page 54):

"I can only surmise reasons. I don't know any specifics, but I can only surmise reasons, and I think it is very dangerous to do so."

424. On the same day, the jury asked a question of some relevance. We have the jury note, and it reads:

"If Jeremy Bamber was found guilty and imprisoned for many years, who would be the beneficiaries of the Bamber estate and monies? Could it be his uncle and family? A possible reason or motive for Robert Boutflour's statement about Jeremy being able to kill his own parents."

http://www.homepage-link.to/justice/judgements/Bamber/index.html

[Cambridgecutie]

And then undermining the chain of custody of his own frame up by concocting a story whereby the blood, paint and silencer was discovered by three members of public and getting them all to go along with it at trial. 

Why would it undermine the chain of custody?  DS Jones handed the keys over to AE and briefed her on the alarm on Fri 9th Aug late early eve.  This was at the time the soc was transferred from EP's control to that of Bamber's extended family.  After showing the Eatons around WHF they all left around the same time.  DS Jones had access to WHF before and after this visit which presented the opportunity to contaminate the OUTSIDE of the silencer with blood, paint and hair before the relatives arrived the following day and found the silencer in the gun cupboard with blood, paint and hair on it as DS Jones left it the previous day. 

[Cambridgecutie]

What you say is true to an extent, but it has still upset some genuine people.  Even you were drawn in and expressed your strong support. Surely you are slightly annoyed by that?

It was a secondment in an attempt to prove my understanding of the case.

[Cambridgecutie]

Mmm. I was delighted to think she may have come to her senses, and I believe most people deserve a second chance, but as I've lived through/witnessed several reincarnations, it was a question of living with/enjoying this one whilst it lasted but waiting to see where it went!! Naturally, I'm sorry genuine people have been upset. It's always sad when trust gets misplaced.

It was a secondment in an attempt to improve my understanding of the case.