Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel

[Steve_uk]

Is there any atrocity the Zionist state commits which you will even mildly criticise?  You are an apologist for evil.  You would have supported Herr Hitler in the 1930s.

Israel has a right to defend itself. I can't see any parallel with Adolf Hitler. Nobody attacked Germany from 1933-1939 akin to October 7 2023.

[ngb1066]

Israel has a right to defend itself. I can't see any parallel with Adolf Hitler. Nobody attacked Germany from 1933-1939 akin to October 7 2023.

Do you have any observation to make about the recent murder of 15 paramedics from Gaza and the total lies by the IDF about it?  Have you seen and heard the video footage? Do you have observations about the BBC coverage this week of disgusting torture by the Zionists of Palestinian prisoners, detained without trial?  You turn a blind eye to the atrocities committed by the scum you admire.  I am sure you parrot the "Jew hate" narrative spouted by Melanie Phillips.

 

[Steve_uk]

Do you have any observation to make about the recent murder of 15 paramedics from Gaza and the total lies by the IDF about it?  Have you seen and heard the video footage? Do you have observations about the BBC coverage this week of disgusting torture by the Zionists of Palestinian prisoners, detained without trial?  You turn a blind eye to the atrocities committed by the scum you admire.  I am sure you parrot the "Jew hate" narrative spouted by Melanie Phillips.

There are atrocities on all sides. Gaza looks worse than Berlin in 1945. Such a pity Hamas didn't put half as much energy into the Strip than the digging of hundreds of miles of tunnels, whose sole purpose was the destruction of the state of Israel.

Maybe there are stories you are unaware of. https://youtu.be/tWk5QzmxGu4

[ngb1066]

There are atrocities on all sides. Gaza looks worse than Berlin in 1945. Such a pity Hamas didn't put half as much energy into the Strip than the digging of hundreds of miles of tunnels, whose sole purpose was the destruction of the state of Israel.

Maybe there are stories you are unaware of. https://youtu.be/tWk5QzmxGu4

I have made clear that I am not a Hamas supporter and condemn the taking of civilian hostages (not all taken were civilians but that is a peripheral issue).  You on the other hand are a shameless apologist for the Zionist regime and will never criticise anything those genocidal bastards do.

[Steve_uk]

I have made clear that I am not a Hamas supporter and condemn the taking of civilian hostages (not all taken were civilians but that is a peripheral issue).  You on the other hand are a shameless apologist for the Zionist regime and will never criticise anything those genocidal bastards do.

The state of Israel has been at war since 1948. War is a terrible business with unintended consequences. I regret all civilian casualties.

[Roch]

The state of Israel has been at war since 1948. War is a terrible business with unintended consequences. I regret all civilian casualties.

Steve, these killings are murders. Not collateral damage.

[Steve_uk]

Steve, these killings are murders. Not collateral damage.

There are always rogue elements in any army. I don't know the full details.

[Roch]

There are always rogue elements in any army. I don't know the full details.

No Steve. The IDF is largely rogue. It is murderous. A monster has been created. I've seen recent CCTV of a teen being sniped just walking down the street and that's not an isolated incident Steve. You seriously need to educate yourself before posting more offensive stuff on here. Please do so.
 

[ngb1066]

No Steve. The IDF is largely rogue. It is murderous. A monster has been created. I've seen recent CCTV of a teen being sniped just walking down the street and that's not an isolated incident Steve. You seriously need to educate yourself before posting more offensive stuff on here. Please do so.

Well said Roch. 

 

[Steve_uk]

No Steve. The IDF is largely rogue. It is murderous. A monster has been created. I've seen recent CCTV of a teen being sniped just walking down the street and that's not an isolated incident Steve. You seriously need to educate yourself before posting more offensive stuff on here. Please do so.

They are fighting for their existence as a country: 15 million Jews worldwide against 2.1 billion Muslims. Where is the incident you are talking about? What was the context?

[Roch]

They are fighting for their existence as a country: 15 million Jews worldwide against 2.1 billion Muslims. Where is the incident you are talking about? What was the context?

They're not fighting for there existence, they're just being c**ts of the worst kind. They are so wrapped up in their own victim cult mythology, they have become utterly self-deluded. The irony is that more and more people now want to see them destroyed precisely because of the way they have behaved!

[Steve_uk]

They're not fighting for there existence, they're just being c**ts of the worst kind. They are so wrapped up in their own victim cult mythology, they have become utterly self-deluded. The irony is that more and more people now want to see them destroyed precisely because of the way they have behaved!

So no link to your allegation. I expected better of you. If you have countries or organizations that wish to destroy the Jewish state you are going to get retaliation in kind.

[Roch]

So no link to your allegation. I expected better of you. If you have countries or organizations that wish to destroy the Jewish state you are going to get retaliation in kind.

Steve are you for real? There is horrific footage of atrocities all over the internet. What world are you living in. And yes I have the link of the teen getting shot. And a lot worse!

[Steve_uk]

Steve are you for real? There is horrific footage of atrocities all over the internet. What world are you living in. And yes I have the link of the teen getting shot. And a lot worse!

There has been less collateral damage during the campaign than Mosul, or other interventions by Western powers. The Jewish state is fighting for its existence. There are bound to be casualties, tragic as they are.

[Steve_uk]

Video for gringo, ngb1066 and others: https://youtu.be/eodG-yJ3Qyc