Emma Morris

[Steve_uk]

Would need to see a source from Morris that Sheila could shoot herself under the chin with the silencer attached.

All the sources since 1985 have been that she couldn't.

There was a photograph of some young woman contortionist who manoeuvred herself into such a situation. I don't have the source, but it's probably what Emma Morris is alluding to.

[ILB]

An experiment conducted by the late Mike Tesko in 2004

[Steve_uk]

An experiment conducted by the late Mike Tesko in 2004

That's one of the photographs to which I was alluding. I believe the claim was she pulled the trigger with her big toe. But it wouldn't explain why the silencer wasn't found by her body, would it?

[ILB]

That's one of the photographs to which I was alluding. I believe the claim was she pulled the trigger with her big toe. But it wouldn't explain why the silencer wasn't found by her body, would it?

I guess it all boils down to whether you believe the silencer was on the gun or not.

[Adam]

An experiment conducted by the late Mike Tesko in 2004

The silencer is on the floor.

[Steve_uk]

The silencer is on the floor.

So in the photograph in #16 that's the length of the .22 Anschütz without silencer fitted?

[Adam]

So in the photograph in #16 that's the length of the .22 Anschütz without silencer fitted?

Yes.

It is an important claim by Morris.

The rifle would be on Sheila with silencer attached if she could reach the trigger.

But it is a claim with no source.

[David1819]

An experiment conducted by the late Mike Tesko in 2004

That was at Birdwell armoury. According to Mike, Renshaw and Rivlin were there also.

[Curiosity]

Amy, the curly-haired contortionist - https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=5205.0

How come Sheila's big toe isn't jammed between trigger and trigger guard in her crime scene photo?

[Jane]

Amy, the curly-haired contortionist - https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=5205.0

How come Sheila's big toe isn't jammed between trigger and trigger guard in her crime scene photo?

It was easier to simply 'drape' the rifle across her body, pointing towards her neck, than faff about 'arranging' her in a way which accommodated a piece of string being attached to her toe and the trigger? There's also the fact that Sheila would have needed to think about doing that, and it was necessary to convey the idea that it was a mindless action.

[Roch]

Think it was to prove a point that it was factually incorrect to say the rifle was too long with the sound moderator on..

[ILB]

The silencer is on the floor.

Just one of many pictures

The others show the silencer on the gun

[Roch]

It's largely irrelevant as the sound moderator wasn't used. If someone wants to peer review Malcolm Fletcher's evidence, maybe could crowdfund it?

[Zoso]

It's largely irrelevant as the sound moderator wasn't used. If someone wants to peer review Malcolm Fletcher's evidence, maybe could crowdfund it?

Get the CT to pay.

[Adam]

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,887.msg26097.html#msg26097

Looking at the photo of Sheila with the rifle on page 2, does confirm she would not be able to reach the trigger. Once the silencer was attached.

Whether Bamber knew that beforehand or realised during the staging, only he knows.