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Re: Forgeries by Bamber's supporters
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2024, 04:17:PM »
Well the way he's talking you would think the police hardly knew sights and a silencer existed before the relatives found them,yet the police knew about the items from day one.
And JB certainly didn't try to hide the fact that sights and a silencer existed,yet Miller seems to say that it was through Ann Eatons knowledge of the farm that the items were found!
Items that everyone knew existed,including AE and DB,yet it seemed to be a great surprise finding them in the cupboard.
Where else would the sights and silencer be if the police didn't have them?
I told you they knew about the sights and silencer from day 1, TAFF, Stan and Miller didn't put any emphasis on them,  simply because of what iv'e said previous to you.

Bamber tried to hide the fact they had been USED which had the same result as not being there.


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« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2024, 04:25:PM »
I told you they knew about the sights and silencer from day 1, TAFF, Stan and Miller didn't put any emphasis on them,  simply because of what iv'e said previous to you.

Bamber tried to hide the fact they had been USED which had the same result as not being there.


Beats me why anyone should think they'd look for a silencer! All the info they'd been given came from JB. It was he who planted in their minds that Sheila was capable of violence to herself, saying she'd previously attempted suicide -never mind that such was a lie, eh- so it was no surprise when they found her dead with a gun on her body. I imagine it would have been as plain as the noses on their faces that it wouldn't have been possible for her to shoot herself with a silencer in place. There wasn't the necessity for them to look for one because it wasn't part of the equation.

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Re: Forgeries by Bamber's supporters
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2024, 04:55:PM »
I told you they knew about the sights and silencer from day 1, TAFF, Stan and Miller didn't put any emphasis on them,  simply because of what iv'e said previous to you.

Bamber tried to hide the fact they had been USED which had the same result as not being there.

HB - According to a ballistics experts in 1986 and 2012, and burns experts in 2012, the sound moderator wasn't used.  What is Malcolm Fletcher's legacy as an expert?  How many gunshot wound cases has he been involved with?
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Re: Forgeries by Bamber's supporters
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2024, 05:16:PM »
HB - According to a ballistics experts in 1986 and 2012, and burns experts in 2012, the sound moderator wasn't used.  What is Malcolm Fletcher's legacy as an expert?  How many gunshot wound cases has he been involved with?
He worked at the forensic science Lab Roch and he had worked there for the last 13 years, so i would have thought he had some experience? 

I asked you a Question, what would you have suspected given the same scenario, Sheila's Blood in Silencer, no blood in rifle, dead body of Sheila?

 The sound Moderator being used has stood any test thrown at it over the last 40 years in numerous appeals or Bamber would be a free man Roch.  Fletchers Legacy as an Expert would be, he was the Expert called to give evidence at the Jeremy Bamber Trial and his testimony was vital in the conviction of Jeremy Bamber, the Defence Expert MAJOR MEADE could not undermine Fletchers Expert Opinion? 

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« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2024, 06:17:PM »
He worked at the forensic science Lab Roch and he had worked there for the last 13 years, so i would have thought he had some experience? 

I asked you a Question, what would you have suspected given the same scenario, Sheila's Blood in Silencer, no blood in rifle, dead body of Sheila?

 The sound Moderator being used has stood any test thrown at it over the last 40 years in numerous appeals or Bamber would be a free man Roch.  Fletchers Legacy as an Expert would be, he was the Expert called to give evidence at the Jeremy Bamber Trial and his testimony was vital in the conviction of Jeremy Bamber, the Defence Expert MAJOR MEADE could not undermine Fletchers Expert Opinion?

Bamber used the silencer. It was a silent massacre attempt.

He took it off and put it away after shooting Sheila. Either realising on the night or knowing beforehand Sheila could not shoot herself with it on.

The view that the police should have looked for and discovered it when it was murder/suicide has always been very optimistic.
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Re: Forgeries by Bamber's supporters
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2024, 06:32:PM »
Well the way he's talking you would think the police hardly knew sights and a silencer existed before the relatives found them,yet the police knew about the items from day one.
And JB certainly didn't try to hide the fact that sights and a silencer existed,yet Miller seems to say that it was through Ann Eatons knowledge of the farm that the items were found!
Items that everyone knew existed,including AE and DB,yet it seemed to be a great surprise finding them in the cupboard.
Where else would the sights and silencer be if the police didn't have them?

They also knew there was a drawer full of knives and shotguns but they didn't take any of those either.  Taff made the decision that it was murder/suicide - so why go hunting for other weapons or parts to a rifle that were found by the body of a perpetrator? The common sense notion would be to assume that the rifle was the only evidence involved to cause of death! If you're looking for someone to blame, then blame Taff - he was told about the sights and the silencer but did nothing and yet he's the innocent side darling. He and Stan even went to ask Jeremy about both implements but when Jeremy said they weren't attached, that was good enough for Stan.. He himself made many mistakes from the start and he's responsible for the confusion.

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« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2024, 06:42:PM »
They also knew there was a drawer full of knives and shotguns but they didn't take any of those either.  Taff made the decision that it was murder/suicide - so why go hunting for other weapons or parts to a rifle that were found by the body of a perpetrator? The common sense notion would be to assume that the rifle was the only evidence involved to cause of death! If you're looking for someone to blame, then blame Taff - he was told about the sights and the silencer but did nothing and yet he's the innocent side darling. He and Stan even went to ask Jeremy about both implements but when Jeremy said they weren't attached, that was good enough for Stan.. He himself made many mistakes from the start and he's responsible for the confusion.
OK ,thanks for your views Zoso.

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Re: Forgeries by Bamber's supporters
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2024, 07:11:PM »
I told you they knew about the sights and silencer from day 1, TAFF, Stan and Miller didn't put any emphasis on them,  simply because of what iv'e said previous to you.

Bamber tried to hide the fact they had been USED which had the same result as not being there.
OK,thanks HB.

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Re: Forgeries by Bamber's supporters
« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2024, 08:59:PM »
I couldn't believe how some posters fell for it,  even with NGB doubting it.

On the Jeremy Bamber (and other) Facebook discussion group, one or two Bamber supporters say it is genuine, even though the Campaign Team confirm that it is a forgery.

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« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2024, 09:05:PM »
On the Jeremy Bamber (and other) Facebook discussion group, one or two Bamber supporters say it is genuine, even though the Campaign Team confirm that it is a forgery.
What do you believe?  If the conspiracy team CT say it's a fake, this then tells you something.

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« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2024, 10:24:PM »
I don't believe Jeremy Bamber himself has ever been behind any attempt of forgery. There is evidence to show he has chastised Mike Tesko for going down such an approach. Including showing disdain for some of Mikes theories


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Re: Forgeries by Bamber's supporters
« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2024, 02:29:PM »
I don't believe Jeremy Bamber himself has ever been behind any attempt of forgery. There is evidence to show he has chastised Mike Tesko for going down such an approach. Including showing disdain for some of Mikes theories

Where? Two things I recall that Bamber didn't like was 1. Mike's theory that the police shot Sheila and 2. Mike's posts about talking to a spiritualist. Bamber hired Di Stephano so wasn't that bothered about fraudulent claims.

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« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2024, 02:51:PM »
Where? Two things I recall that Bamber didn't like was 1. Mike's theory that the police shot Sheila and 2. Mike's posts about talking to a spiritualist. Bamber hired Di Stephano so wasn't that bothered about fraudulent claims.

Di Steffano had a high profile at the time he was instructed to represent JB. He was not linked to fraudulent behaviour.

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« Reply #43 on: July 02, 2024, 03:52:PM »
Di Steffano had a high profile at the time he was instructed to represent JB. He was not linked to fraudulent behaviour.


NO behaviours just happen. He may well have been honing his skills on the JB case.

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« Reply #44 on: July 02, 2024, 03:55:PM »
Di Steffano had a high profile at the time he was instructed to represent JB. He was not linked to fraudulent behaviour.

I think Giovanni Di Stefano was his 'lawyer' in 2004/5,   


A self-styled Italian lawyer has been found guilty of tricking people into thinking he was a bona fide legal professional.

Giovanni di Stefano was convicted of 25 charges including deception, fraud and money laundering between 2001 and 2011.

Di Stefano, 57, of Canterbury, is known as the "devil's advocate" for representing high-profile criminals.


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