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Re: CCRC Watch article written by Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2024, 08:37:AM »
Just all seems corrupt as fuck to me if I'm quite honest.

" Don't talk to the media and we will give you updates " hush hush "

I'm guessing he is referring to Ainsley ?
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Re: CCRC Watch article written by Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2024, 08:42:AM »
Similarly to the IPCC/iopc cops judging cops, whitewash complete bias.

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Re: CCRC Watch article written by Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2024, 10:30:AM »
https://empowerinnocent.wixsite.com/ccrcwatch/post/jeremy-bamber-s-assessment-of-the-ccrc-following-his-3rd-application-the-criminal-cases-review-comm

It is a very well written piece by Jeremy Bamber, with some powerful points made.  I think his assessment of the CCRC is correct. 

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Re: CCRC Watch article written by Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2024, 10:55:AM »
It has, so far, taken 3 years for my Case Review Manager and his Manager to review 3 of the 10 grounds of appeal that we submitted to them 36 months ago.'

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Going by this it seems it will take around 10 years to go through from 2021. Unless one point beforehand is considered strong enough for the case to be passed to the COA.

The OS has 8 grounds, so 2 new points must have been added. Be good if the OS could keep up to date.
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Re: CCRC Watch article written by Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2024, 11:28:AM »
Astonishing that ex-police officers would be allowed by the CCRC to work on the Bamber case. Unforgivable that an ex-Essex police officer should be allowed anywhere near it. Corruption throughout the CCRC.

Doesn't make any difference in Jeremy Bambers case, because Jeremy Bamber is submitting bogus and fake 'evidence' to the CCRC.

Even if he was innocent (which he's not), the fake evidence that he submits could never be assessed as 'new evidence'.  It's not even evidence, new or otherwise.

Pretty much everything that Jeremy Bamber claims proves he is innocent, comes from Police documentation which when studied, actually shows the police were doing their job properly and professionally.

Also when you look at the problems experienced by the CCRC, you'll see that the system is being abused by genuinely guilty criminals, who are trying to game/troll/manipulate the system.  And that costs years worth of time, and absorbs huge amounts of money that could be spent on genuine Moj's.

If you stop the guilty people (like Jeremy Bamber) abusing the system, then real MoJ's will be spotted and sorted out much sooner.


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Re: CCRC Watch article written by Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2024, 12:08:PM »
'It has, so far, taken 3 years for my Case Review Manager and his Manager to review 3 of the 10 grounds of appeal that we submitted to them 36 months ago.'

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This is saying 10 grounds were submitted in 2021. However the OS has 8 grounds.

Guess we will never know if it was 10, 8 or whether 2 grounds have been added since 2021.
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Re: CCRC Watch article written by Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2024, 12:46:PM »
Doesn't make any difference in Jeremy Bambers case, because Jeremy Bamber is submitting bogus and fake 'evidence' to the CCRC.

Even if he was innocent (which he's not), the fake evidence that he submits could never be assessed as 'new evidence'.  It's not even evidence, new or otherwise.

Pretty much everything that Jeremy Bamber claims proves he is innocent, comes from Police documentation which when studied, actually shows the police were doing their job properly and professionally.

Also when you look at the problems experienced by the CCRC, you'll see that the system is being abused by genuinely guilty criminals, who are trying to game/troll/manipulate the system.  And that costs years worth of time, and absorbs huge amounts of money that could be spent on genuine Moj's.

If you stop the guilty people (like Jeremy Bamber) abusing the system, then real MoJ's will be spotted and sorted out much sooner.

    You blame the admitted failings of the CCRC on, "guilty criminals gaming the system". This is a pathetic excuse and akin to "victim blaming". Do you genuinely believe that the CCRC would suddenly start overturning the "genuine MoJ's", if only those guilty criminals would stop "gaming the system"? 

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Re: CCRC Watch article written by Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2024, 12:50:PM »
It is a very well written piece by Jeremy Bamber, with some powerful points made.  I think his assessment of the CCRC is correct.

Yes, fascinating glimpse into the mind of a genuine psychopath, who has dedicated his entire life to manipulating every single person he ever comes into contact with, as well as every single process and organization he has access to.

Over the last 40 years, it's an incredible amount of energy, basically behaving in a completely deviant way.

I know that will annoy people, but I just find it fascinating.  There will be lots of people like Jeremy Bamber in the world, but none that put themselves on show like this. 

That whole article is consciously trying to create an appearance of calmness, intelligence, knowledge and innocence.  But the exact opposite actually applies to Jeremy Bamber as a human being.

My guilty pleasure each year is to watch I'm a celebrity, and it is often said that no one, not even an actor can play an artificially nice character for the entire period of the show, because it would drive them mad, and the cracks would show up.  They would need months of counselling just to recover.  But Jeremy Bamber has been doing this for 40 years.

The cracks can be seen here and there, just to confirm that the 1985 murderer is still alive and kicking inside the shell that he has created.  But the psychological damage that he must have sustained over the last 4 decades must be immense.

He has become a creature from a horror film.

Interestingly, I found the article quite beige and generic.  He is obviously ultra cautious and probably paranoid about coming across in any way aggressive.

It reminds me of when he used to write to Carol Ann Lee, because she published a few of his letters, and that calmness comes across in his letters to her.  But when he started talking about his extended family, and even though the handwriting doesn't change at all, you can really sense a change of mood. 

The darkness is instant, and the language changes.  He talked about his family all gorging on his inheritance. 

The sense of entitlement comes back. 

The anger comes back, like when he used to tell people how much he hated his parents back in the day, and the unnerving attitude that he carried and conveyed.  It all, temporarily, comes back.

And then in the next letter, Jeremy Bamber apologizes for his rant.

So yes, reading this, where he is trying to convince people of his innocence, is fascinating from a psychological point of view.   And a little voyeuristic too, I suppose.
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Re: CCRC Watch article written by Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2024, 12:58:PM »
Just all seems corrupt as fuck to me if I'm quite honest.

" Don't talk to the media and we will give you updates " hush hush "

I'm guessing he is referring to Ainsley ?
    It seems, "corrupt as fuck" to anyone who is honest, ILB.

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Re: CCRC Watch article written by Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2024, 01:20:PM »
    It seems, "corrupt as fuck" to anyone who is honest, ILB.

Or not blinkered on this case. 

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Re: CCRC Watch article written by Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2024, 01:36:PM »
    It seems, "corrupt as fuck" to anyone who is honest, ILB.

the problem for Jeremy Bamber is that he is purposely creating fake evidence, and submitting it to the CCRC. 

He knows that the CCRC and/or any other body will have no choice but to reject his application for permission to appeal his conviction.

The only real corruption would be if the CCRC allowed these lies and fakery to be forwarded to the court of appeal.  Therefore wasting even more valuable time.

So it is irrelevant in what state the CCRC is in as far as Jeremy Bambers specific case is concerned.

Innocent or guilty, Jeremy Bambers evidence, for the most part is, in reality, evidence that the police did their job diligently and with integrity at the time.

For example the forms that are commonly called the call logs, one filled in by PC west, the other by Malcom Bonnet (if memory serves).

Jeremy Bamber claims that they were withheld from his defense team at the time of trial, therefore there is a non-disclosure issue on a piece of evidence that Jeremy Bamber claims proves he is innocent (don't worry, it doesn't prove he's innocent, in fact, quite the opposite).

But one of the copies that Jeremy Bamber has leaked out and sent to all the national newspapers, actually has a Chelmsford Crown Court tag attached to it, with the exhibit number written on it.

So we can all instantly see that it was used as a piece of evidence at the actual trial in 1986.  Therefore absolute proof that he is lying about the non disclosure accusation.

Honestly you couldn't make it up. 

Some total numpty at Jeremy Bambers Campaign Team forgot to remove it.  They obviously didn't get the memo.

And not only that, but Jeremy Bamber has also leaked out the trial transcripts where the officers in question are examined and cross examined over the two call logs.

Those transcripts have been uploaded to either this forum or the red forum or both.  Again for all to read. 

So we know with absolute certainty that the call logs were released to Jeremy Bambers defense team at the original trial, and they were discussed at the actual trial.

And therefore we know - thanks to Jeremy Bambers incompetence - that he lies about the evidence, and creates fake evidence that he knows will be easily disprovable by the CCRC.

And every piece of evidence that Jeremy Bamber has made public via his press releases over the last 20-30 years, can be picked apart and proven to be a lie.  And most of it can be cross-referenced with the many thousands of actual trial documents from 1986 that Jeremy Bamber himself has unlawfully leaked out from his prison cell, and made its way onto the internet for everyone to see.

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Re: CCRC Watch article written by Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2024, 02:03:PM »
My guilty pleasure each year is to watch I'm a celebrity

Doesn't surprise me. A show primed for the pliable and feeble-minded.

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Re: CCRC Watch article written by Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2024, 02:15:PM »
    You blame the admitted failings of the CCRC on, "guilty criminals gaming the system". This is a pathetic excuse and akin to "victim blaming". Do you genuinely believe that the CCRC would suddenly start overturning the "genuine MoJ's", if only those guilty criminals would stop "gaming the system"?

Genuinely guilty criminals are in no way victims.   It makes perfect sense that if you allow easy access to applying for permission to make an appeal, then a number of genuinely guilty criminal's will try and game the system.

The easier it is to abuse the system, the more abuse there will be.
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Re: CCRC Watch article written by Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2024, 02:16:PM »
Doesn't surprise me. A show primed for the pliable and feeble-minded.

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