Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall

[ILB]

I'm perfectly certain you're correct, Steve. My father worked for a large company and when Lord X decided it was time for his son to join, he asked my father to tutor him, show him the ropes from the ground up. It worked very well. In Jeremy's case, possibly -because of his adoption?- he felt unworthy and of less value than the paid employees?

I think he will have had some type of preferential treatment. But more probably along the lines of having days off when he wanted or  not working late. ( Nevill stated he had trouble getting Jeremy to work weekends ) Which means he wasn't that forceful with him otherwise he would have made him do so!

I definatley don't think his duties were just farm labouring. One employee in his statement stated he would go to Jeremy to receive instruction, and farm reps at the trial said " they found Jeremy the easiest person to deal with out of the family " which meant Jeremys duties would have extended somewhat than just a bloke in the fields. Having said that, labouring duties did make up time in his job as he was on the tractor and fields. Nevill himself did these tasks ( and he was the gaffer!

Having said that there is a source of Nevill saying Jeremy was shaping up well at the farm. Believe Jeremy would have got into it but knowing his character he probably wanted things done his way. Didn't he have plans to computerise the place and only half jokingly suggest they make Barbara Wilson redundant?

[Jane]

It's funny Jane to be honest. If I recall correctly in either wilkes book or CAL,( think the latter ) she provides a source of Shelia saying that she thought " Jeremy was Nevills Favoruite" believe it was by Inez Brown

Yeh, well there's sibling rivalry in action for you, ILB. My late partner's two sons both shared with me how terrible it was for them in childhood! Would you believe they both told me exactly the same story, ie, their sibling was the favourite.  It actually all comes down to one child requiring/knowing how to get?!!! more attention than the other, who, naturally, feels neglected and resentful as a result.

[Steve_uk]

I think he will have had some type of preferential treatment. But more probably along the lines of having days off when he wanted or  not working late. ( Nevill stated he had trouble getting Jeremy to work weekends ) Which means he wasn't that forceful with him otherwise he would have made him do so!

I definatley don't think his duties were just farm labouring. One employee in his statement stated he would go to Jeremy to receive instruction, and farm reps at the trial said " they found Jeremy the easiest person to deal with out of the family " which meant Jeremys duties would have extended somewhat than just a bloke in the fields. Having said that, labouring duties did make up time in his job as he was on the tractor and fields. Nevill himself did these tasks ( and he was the gaffer!

Having said that there is a source of Nevill saying Jeremy was shaping up well at the farm. Believe Jeremy would have got into it but knowing his character he probably wanted things done his way. Didn't he have plans to computerise the place and only half jokingly suggest they make Barbara Wilson redundant?

This was a conversation following the two round-the-world trips of Jeremy's between Barbara Wilson and Nevill. I believe Nevill was trying to look on the bright side, namely that his son had sown his wild oats and was finally about to settle down to agricultural duties with a suitable wife approved of by himself and June. However, Barbara harboured doubts about Jeremy's real intentions, suspecting that behind every act of his lay an ulterior motive.

[ILB]

Currently in lanzarote. Sorry for bumping this. Got a taxi last night from a resturaunt, about 1am, a quiet little village. Very isolated. Akin to goldhanger tollshunt D'Arcy in 1985.

Got me thinking about the car route of Bamber.

He could have easily done it in the car without being seen.

Did not see a soul last night and went past properties all in darkness.

In 85, in an Enid Blyton village like goldhanger a drive to tollshunt D'Arcy would be so simple.

[Jane]

Currently in lanzarote. Sorry for bumping this. Got a taxi last night from a resturaunt, about 1am, a quiet little village. Very isolated. Akin to goldhanger tollshunt D'Arcy in 1985.

Got me thinking about the car route of Bamber.

He could have easily done it in the car without being seen.

Did not see a soul last night and went past properties all in darkness.

In 85, in an Enid Blyton village like goldhanger a drive to tollshunt D'Arcy would be so simple.

You're right. I think we tend to forget how much quieter life was back then.

[Rob_]

Currently in lanzarote. Sorry for bumping this. Got a taxi last night from a resturaunt, about 1am, a quiet little village. Very isolated. Akin to goldhanger tollshunt D'Arcy in 1985.

Got me thinking about the car route of Bamber.

He could have easily done it in the car without being seen.

Did not see a soul last night and went past properties all in darkness.

In 85, in an Enid Blyton village like goldhanger a drive to tollshunt D'Arcy would be so simple.

Sorry ILB but to me the car is a non starter, in any case if JB was willing to risk driving why does he not dial 999 and belt back to his cottage?

[ILB]

Sorry ILB but to me the car is a non starter, in any case if JB was willing to risk driving why does he not dial 999 and belt back to his cottage?

A 999 call would be risky from WHF in my view.

If a mobile patrol unit is close by, they may descend on the scene quickly and catch him on the premises. Despite any method of transport he may have used.

[Rob_]

A 999 call would be risky from WHF in my view.

If a mobile patrol unit is close by, they may descend on the scene quickly and catch him on the premises. Despite any method of transport he may have used.

Today yes because they could trace the call very quick, but in 1985 it would take the Police time to locate the address. Bamber would cut the call before giving full details.

[ILB]

Today yes because they could trace the call very quick, but in 1985 it would take the Police time to locate the address. Bamber would cut the call before giving full details.

If Bamber cut the call without giving the address could the call be traced?

I know phonecalls couldn't be traced,

[ILB]

I will never understand till this day even by 85 standards they sent three unarmed officers first off to the scene. And told the witness ( Jeremy Bamber to go to the scene)

Talking police protocol, this put three officers and a civilian in harms way.

The nature of the call ( starting point ) was that there was a woman going amok with a gun. I know it took firearm officers 4 hours to enter but surely they should have been on the scene straight away. Or as quick as they could be mustered. I am shocked in took the time it did.

It's crazy how times have changed.