Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall

[ILB]

Why would she ever go on Bamber's route at 2am?

She lived in London and had a caravan on a site 5 miles away.

How can you make assumptions over someone you have never met? How would you know what she did or didn't do?

[Adam]

How can you make assumptions over someone you have never met? How would you know what she did or didn't do?

Why do you think she would travel 5 miles from her caravan at 2am?

That Sea Wall did not have a 24/7 mini mart.

[Adam]

To be fair she has just mentioned night fishermen.

Suppose there would be a possibility of people fishing in the dark in a heavily populated area such as Ocea Leisure Park. To generalise this to relate to 5 miles away is a big stretch.

ILB is the one who expanded to Bamber passing BBQ's, campers and teenagers.

[Rob_]

I agree that the tracks after making the right turn onto Pages Lane do not look as defined.

However if he could no longer cycle he was now close enough to WHF to walk. It would mean walking across two fields onto the back of WHF.

Estimate walking time of 7 minutes.

Between WHF and Wyckes Farm on the West side of Pages Lane there are no public rights of way, only edges of fields etc. Which is why the prosecution route is through Wycke's farm just common sense really.

The prosecution say Bamber cycled purely because of the timings, not a scrape of evidence he actually did. JM says this was his plan but fails to mention the bike was never for her which would have been quite damming.

So stop post rubbish that Bamber could cycle and pass no properties. When Bews and co quietly walked up to WHF Bruce was kicking up a fuss. Which has happened to me many times while at work or on walks etc.

[Adam]

Not sure why Rob keeps posting the farm track which leads to Pages Lane.

He knows the other farm track I am referring to is half an inch (on Google Maps) to the left of this.

Very immature.

[Rob_]

Not sure why Rob keeps posting the farm track which leads to Pages Lane.

He knows the other farm track I am referring to is half an inch (on Google Maps) to the left of this.

Very immature.

Then stop posting misleading information, or rather stuff you just make up and hope no one checks.

[Adam]

Does anyone know the name of the farm an inch (on Google Maps) to the left of Pages Lane?

Bamber had the option of cycling up to this from the Sea Wall. On a well defined farm track.

Turning right to Pages Lane. This avoided Wyke Farm.

[Rob_]

Does anyone know the name of the farm an inch (on Google Maps) to the left of Pages Lane?

Bamber had the option of cycling up to this from the Sea Wall. On a well defined farm track.

Turning right to Pages Lane. This avoided Wyke Farm.

You should know!

West of Pages Lane there is a reservoir, Hyde Farm and Brook House Farm.

[Adam]

You should know!

West of Pages Lane there is a reservoir, Hyde Farm and Brook House Farm.

I know where Brook House and Lauriston Farms are.

The nearest Farm to the left of Pages Lane (on Google Maps) I do not know the name of.

[Rob_]

I know where Brook House and Lauriston Farms are.

The nearest Farm to the left of Pages Lane (on Google Maps) I do not know the name of.

There is no other farm?

[Adam]

Obviously farms will have well defined farm tracks leading to them. From different directions.

Cars, lorries, tractors, residents, walking people need to have continuous access to/from farms.

The farm track from the Sea Wall to the nearest farm to the left of Pages Lane looks very wide and defined.

[Rob_]

Obviously farms will have well defined farm tracks leading to them. From different directions.

Cars, lorries, tractors, residents, walking people need to have continuous access to/from farms.

The farm track from the Sea Wall to the nearest farm to the left of Pages Lane looks very wide and defined.

South West of Wycke Farm there is only Lauriston Farm, not sure what you are looking at?

[Adam]

I will call the nearest farm to the left of Pages Lane (on Google Maps) Farm A.

Brook House, Wyke & WHF are on very wide farm tracks. Suitable for large vehicles. Let alone bikes.

Farm A will be the same. So very easy to cycle up. As Google maps highlights.

By the time he had to turn right off this farm track, he was close enough to walk if the terrain substantially deteriorated.

[Rob_]

I will call the nearest farm to the left of Pages Lane (on Google Maps) Farm A.

Brook House, Wyke & WHF are on very wide farm tracks. Suitable for large vehicles. Let alone bikes.

Farm A will be the same. So very easy to cycle up. As Google maps highlights.

By the time he had to turn right off this farm track, he was close enough to walk if the terrain substantially deteriorated.

Farm A?

The only possible route I can see is to leave the sea wall approx 430m (if this is possible) before the prosecution route and go up towards Hyde Farm but there is no way to get across to Pages Lane unless you carry on further North?

[Adam]

Looking at the right turn from Farm A, the terrain does not look as defined.

However may still have been ok to cycle. Considering how determined Bamber would be.

Once on Pages Lane he would turn left and cycle 320 metres to WHF.

Or from Farm A he could walk across 2 fields to the back of WHF. Estimate walking time 7 minutes.

Both options avoid Wyke Farm.