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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1590 on: May 11, 2024, 10:02:PM »
Well I don't think he cycled, but apart from that I would say zero chance of him cycling the Brook House Farm route.

So you believe he cycled the Sea Wall.

Walking across fields was not possible. You do not believe he drove.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1591 on: May 11, 2024, 10:11:PM »
So you believe he cycled the Sea Wall.

Walking across fields was not possible. You do not believe he drove.

I don't think cycling over rough ground in darkness would be much quicker than going on foot. Going on foot he would take a more direct route and could keep well clear of properties which he cannot do if cycling.

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1592 on: May 11, 2024, 10:15:PM »
I don't think cycling over rough ground in darkness would be much quicker than going on foot. Going on foot he would take a more direct route and could keep well clear of properties which he cannot do if cycling.

Well the Brook House Farm route was perfect terrain. But you don't believe he would cycle through Goldhanger.

Agree there were insects and 2 waist high styles on the Sea Wall route. This would not deter a highly motivated Bamber.

Walking a more direct route across fields was not possible. I have said this several times.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1593 on: May 11, 2024, 10:24:PM »
Well the Brook House Farm route was perfect terrain. But you don't believe he would cycle through Goldhanger.

Agree there were insects and 2 waist high styles on the Sea Wall route. This would not deter a highly motivated Bamber.

Walking a more direct route across fields was not possible. I have said this several times.

He would not go across fields as such as easy to loose your direction and depending on what crops were in them, but around the edges of them.

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1594 on: May 11, 2024, 10:24:PM »
I don't think cycling over rough ground in darkness would be much quicker than going on foot. Going on foot he would take a more direct route and could keep well clear of properties which he cannot do if cycling.

The Sea Wall route goes past Zero/one property. Depending on which left turn he takes onto Pages Lane.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1595 on: May 11, 2024, 10:28:PM »
He would not go across fields as such as easy to loose your direction and depending on what crops were in them, but around the edges of them.

The Sea Wall goes along the edges of the fields.

This was wide and good terrain to cycle on. As several sources have shown. It was also an open area so there would be good vision.

Walking around the edges of fields would take too long and be too tiring.

Walking a more direct route across fields was not possible.

I have said this before.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2024, 10:33:PM by Adam »
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1596 on: May 11, 2024, 10:28:PM »
The Sea Wall route goes past Zero/one property. Depending on which left turn he takes onto Pages Lane.

If cycling he goes through Wycke Farm? please correct me if I am wrong?

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« Reply #1597 on: May 11, 2024, 10:32:PM »
If cycling he goes through Wycke Farm? please correct me if I am wrong?

If cycling the prosecution route he cycles past Wyke Farm. This is 50 yards in length.

This would be silently and in the dark. Wyke Farm is several yards off Pages Lane.

There is another left turn farm track before this which he could cycle down. This avoids Wyke Farm & leads to Pages Lane.

I have said this before.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1598 on: May 11, 2024, 10:33:PM »
If cycling the prosecution route he cycles past Wyke Farm. This is 50 yards in length.

This would be silently and in the dark. Wyke Farm is several yards off Pages Lane.

There is another farm track before this which he could cycle down. This avoids Wyke Farm.

I have said this before.

He does not cycle past but right through it! Stop posting misinformation you just said zero properties!
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1599 on: May 11, 2024, 10:36:PM »
He does not cycle past but right through it! Stop posting misinformation you just said zero properties!

He cycles on Pages Lane. Wyke Farm is off Pages Lane.

Google Maps does show this.

There is another left turn off the Sea Wall which avoids Wyke Farm and leads to Pages Lane.

It is on Google Maps and I have said this before.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1600 on: May 11, 2024, 10:38:PM »
Rob certainly does not believe Bamber drove.

He's making a big thing about Bamber (maybe) silently cycling past one property at 2am!
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1601 on: May 11, 2024, 10:43:PM »
Rob certainly does not believe Bamber drove.

He's making a big thing about Bamber (maybe) silently cycling past one property at 2am!

Farms have dogs which are usually kept in outside kennels and would kick up a fuss, I don't think Bamber would go near any farms. I have often set them off.

Remember when Bews and co arrived at WHF the dogs were barking.

I see you are saying one property now, not zero anymore!
« Last Edit: May 11, 2024, 10:43:PM by Rob_ »

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1602 on: May 11, 2024, 10:46:PM »
Rob agrees Bamber could not walk a direct route across fields.

Estimate his theory that Bamber zig zagged along the 'edge of fields' would take over 70 minutes.

Considering walking the Brook House Farm & Sea Wall routes took Wilkinson 45 and 70 minutes.

Would be very tiring. And that is just getting there!
« Last Edit: May 11, 2024, 10:49:PM by Adam »
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1603 on: May 11, 2024, 10:48:PM »
Farms have dogs which are usually kept in outside kennels and would kick up a fuss, I don't think Bamber would go near any farms. I have often set them off.

Remember when Bews and co arrived at WHF the dogs were barking.

I see you are saying one property now, not zero anymore!

How would a silent bike wake a sleeping dog?

Please don't try to divert. You know there are two left turns off The Sea Wall.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1604 on: May 11, 2024, 10:51:PM »
How would a silent bike wake a sleeping dog?

Please don't try to divert. You know there are two left turns off The Sea Wall.

Then post the route, it still goes through a farm if you are cycling.