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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: 'JB laundered his clothes / JB got rid of his clothes'.
« Reply #60 on: September 28, 2023, 07:37:PM »
Ok, so gets home nobody knows when, the launders his bloody clothes, including drying them and the phones the police?  Does he put them away after drying them or are they still in the dryer. Did he even have a dryer? Was there a dryer at WHF?  Who knows eh.
He probably just put them in the wardrobe, showered and put on new clothes. Unlike David Bain, who started the washing machine.

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« Reply #61 on: September 28, 2023, 07:39:PM »
What about dry them and get them out?


D'ya think he only had one set of clothes to wear, Roch? If it was a washer/dryer he could have programmed it to go onto the drying cycle. If it was only a washer, he'd have left it where it was. He was hardly going to draw attention to it by telling the police to stop their questions while he got the washing out, especially as it was unlikely they'd have known it was on. I really can't think you can see any problems in this.

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« Reply #62 on: September 28, 2023, 07:51:PM »
Ok, so gets home nobody knows when, the launders his bloody clothes, including drying them and the phones the police?  Does he put them away after drying them or are they still in the dryer. Did he even have a dryer? Was there a dryer at WHF?  Who knows eh.

It is common practice to put clothes away after they have been washed.
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« Reply #63 on: September 28, 2023, 08:05:PM »
Ok, so gets home nobody knows when, the launders his bloody clothes, including drying them and the phones the police?  Does he put them away after drying them or are they still in the dryer. Did he even have a dryer? Was there a dryer at WHF?  Who knows eh.


Indeed, who even cares? No one noticed anything amiss. He wasn't a suspect so no one was looking for it. I guess it's safe to say he got away with it. Of all the things which might deserve further consideration, I don't think his laundry is one such.

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Re: 'JB laundered his clothes / JB got rid of his clothes'.
« Reply #64 on: September 28, 2023, 08:11:PM »

Indeed, who even cares? No one noticed anything amiss. He wasn't a suspect so no one was looking for it. I guess it's safe to say he got away with it. Of all the things which might deserve further consideration, I don't think his laundry is one such.

I guess it's safe to say there is absolutely no evidence he laundered, dried or disposed of clothes.  Presumably that's why Mugford never mentioned any of his clothes being missing. No animals tore any bags open. No dog walkers or farmers came across any discarded or stashed clothes. Eaton & co never noticed any machines full of laundry or clothes drying on the line.

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« Reply #65 on: September 28, 2023, 08:15:PM »
I guess it's safe to say there is absolutely no evidence he laundered, dried or disposed of clothes.  Presumably that's why Mugford never mentioned any of his clothes being missing. No animals tore any bags open. No dog walkers or farmers came across any discarded or stashed clothes. Eaton & co never noticed any machines full of laundry or clothes drying on the line.

I'm sure she kept an inventory.
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« Reply #66 on: September 28, 2023, 08:17:PM »
I guess it's safe to say there is absolutely no evidence he laundered, dried or disposed of clothes.  Presumably that's why Mugford never mentioned any of his clothes being missing. No animals tore any bags open. No dog walkers or farmers came across any discarded or stashed clothes. Eaton & co never noticed any machines full of laundry or clothes drying on the line.


Mmm. I guess if evidence existed he'd have been suspected long before he was. No need then for JM to have said anything, perhaps................although can you explain why, as she didn't live there, she'd have been able to list all his work clothes?

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Re: 'JB laundered his clothes / JB got rid of his clothes'.
« Reply #67 on: September 28, 2023, 08:38:PM »

Mmm. I guess if evidence existed he'd have been suspected long before he was. No need then for JM to have said anything, perhaps................although can you explain why, as she didn't live there, she'd have been able to list all his work clothes?

What about farm hands?  Was there any involved at the time?  They might have noticed if a certain set of work wear disappeared. Maybe not. Maybe that's a long shot.

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« Reply #68 on: September 28, 2023, 08:42:PM »
How did he get rid of his bloodied footwear?  I wonder what he would have to have worn? Boots might give him an advantage over people in bare feet. But would be unwieldy. Trainers would allow for more flexibility.  But where did they go and how where they never found?

Police studied the route. So why couldn't they search?

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« Reply #69 on: September 28, 2023, 09:07:PM »
What about farm hands?  Was there any involved at the time?  They might have noticed if a certain set of work wear disappeared. Maybe not. Maybe that's a long shot.


Supposing this, supposing that. Supposing, supposing, supposing! Calm down, Roch! You sound as if you're getting too wound up!

Re the boots. Hose them? Trainers could go through the wash.

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Re: 'JB laundered his clothes / JB got rid of his clothes'.
« Reply #70 on: September 28, 2023, 09:15:PM »

Supposing this, supposing that. Supposing, supposing, supposing! Calm down, Roch! You sound as if you're getting too wound up!

Re the boots. Hose them? Trainers could go through the wash.

Just think it's daft. One minute it's a meticulous plan that leaves no evidence. The next he is impulsive, lacking control and making mistakes.  The guilt narrative is any story whatsoever, to fit with guilt.  Goal posts are about five miles wide.

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Re: 'JB laundered his clothes / JB got rid of his clothes'.
« Reply #71 on: September 28, 2023, 09:16:PM »
How did he get rid of his bloodied footwear?  I wonder what he would have to have worn? Boots might give him an advantage over people in bare feet. But would be unwieldy. Trainers would allow for more flexibility.  But where did they go and how where they never found?

Police studied the route. So why couldn't they search?
I think blood off boots would be simple to clean off Roch?

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« Reply #72 on: September 28, 2023, 09:20:PM »
Just think it's daft. One minute it's a meticulous plan that leaves no evidence. The next he is impulsive, lacking control and making mistakes.  The guilt narrative is any story whatsoever, to fit with guilt.  Goal posts are about five miles wide.
The guilt narrative is any story whatsoever, to fit with guilt.  You don't think it's being reversed then Roch?  I try to stick to script, youv'e said this yourself.  Wev'e got Neville knocked out for hours before being shot to try to fit the Burns into an AGA story.

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« Reply #73 on: September 28, 2023, 09:27:PM »
I think blood off boots would be simple to clean off Roch?

Possibly, but where, in the sink?  How has he got all this time, to walk over fields home and wash everything?  If he stashed anything at the farm, he was under surveillance wasn't he? Prior to that, the relatives had the keys didn't they?

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Re: 'JB laundered his clothes / JB got rid of his clothes'.
« Reply #74 on: September 28, 2023, 09:32:PM »
How did he get rid of his bloodied footwear?  I wonder what he would have to have worn? Boots might give him an advantage over people in bare feet. But would be unwieldy. Trainers would allow for more flexibility.  But where did they go and how where they never found?

Police studied the route. So why couldn't they search?

Trainers can be put in a washing machine. Or cleaned in a sink.

Either at WHF or Goldhanger.

Agree trainers gave him a big advantage ovet Nevill.
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