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Offline Hardy Boy

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Re: The beauty of THREE marks for supporters
« Reply #180 on: September 27, 2023, 09:37:PM »
Doesn't need to be Zoso,very slow burns,probably forming sometime between 11.00-3.00.
Good grief he was out for a long time Snow, he phoned Bamber at three, most cases usually are out for about 15 to 30 mins.  If they out longer it can lead to Concussion and brain damage or coma?

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Re: The beauty of THREE marks for supporters
« Reply #181 on: September 27, 2023, 10:03:PM »
Good grief he was out for a long time Snow, he phoned Bamber at three, most cases usually are out for about 15 to 30 mins.  If they out longer it can lead to Concussion and brain damage or coma?
I think Snow is referring to the Aga heat timing not the time NB was out for the count.

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Re: The beauty of THREE marks for supporters
« Reply #182 on: September 27, 2023, 10:09:PM »
I think Snow is referring to the Aga heat timing not the time NB was out for the count.
,very slow burns,probably forming sometime between 11.00-3.00.

Slow Burns ,very slow burns,probably forming sometime between 11.00-3.00.

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Re: The beauty of THREE marks for supporters
« Reply #183 on: September 27, 2023, 10:14:PM »
Good grief he was out for a long time Snow, he phoned Bamber at three, most cases usually are out for about 15 to 30 mins. If they out longer it can lead to Concussion and brain damage or coma?

Yep, this is what I have tried to indicate but it's falling on deaf ears.

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Re: The beauty of THREE marks for supporters
« Reply #184 on: September 27, 2023, 10:18:PM »
I think Snow is referring to the Aga heat timing not the time NB was out for the count.
The idea from this or was, that Neville was supposed to be unconciouss for a period leaned against the AGA, slow burning to make the marks.  All three knobs producing the same heat at the same time to make the three marks.  Snow now suggests this could have happened between the hours 11.00 till 3.00am. 

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Re: The beauty of THREE marks for supporters
« Reply #185 on: September 27, 2023, 10:33:PM »
I think Snow is referring to the Aga heat timing not the time NB was out for the count.
No,I WAS referring to the time Nevill may have been unconcious Bubo,but its only guess work till we get confirmation of how long the burns took to form.

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Re: The beauty of THREE marks for supporters
« Reply #186 on: September 27, 2023, 10:35:PM »
No,I WAS referring to the time Nevill may have been unconcious Bubo,but its only guess work till we get confirmation of how long the burns took to form.
Thank you Snow.

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Re: The beauty of THREE marks for supporters
« Reply #187 on: September 27, 2023, 11:26:PM »
.....''The length of time that a person is knocked out for typically depends on the severity of the traumatic brain injury.According to Headway,if someone is unconscious for less than 15 minutes,their traumatic brain injury is considered mild.A loss of consciousness between 15 minutes and six hours is considered a moderate traumatic brain injury,and between six hours and 48 hours is severe traumatic brain injury.''

So you can be knocked out for any length of time really!

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« Reply #188 on: September 28, 2023, 12:18:AM »
.....''The length of time that a person is knocked out for typically depends on the severity of the traumatic brain injury.According to Headway,if someone is unconscious for less than 15 minutes,their traumatic brain injury is considered mild.A loss of consciousness between 15 minutes and six hours is considered a moderate traumatic brain injury,and between six hours and 48 hours is severe traumatic brain injury.''

So you can be knocked out for any length of time really!

I am afraid I now find your reasoning of 11.00pm to 03.00am faulty. If this were the case he would have phoned the police immediately he recovered and would have mentioned it to JB if he called him at 03.10, rather than talking about the gun in the first instance. There is also no evidence to support NB being shot in the bedroom apart from the staging of the shell casings which was part of the overall scene setting. Only hard and fast guilt supporters believe NB was shot in the bedroom.

Try this from CAL.


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Re: The beauty of THREE marks for supporters
« Reply #189 on: September 28, 2023, 01:06:AM »
I am afraid I now find your reasoning of 11.00pm to 03.00am faulty. If this were the case he would have phoned the police immediately he recovered and would have mentioned it to JB if he called him at 03.10, rather than talking about the gun in the first instance. There is also no evidence to support NB being shot in the bedroom apart from the staging of the shell casings which was part of the overall scene setting. Only hard and fast guilt supporters believe NB was shot in the bedroom.

Try this from CAL.

I'd say I was one of those and I don't believe he was shot in the bedroom.

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Re: The beauty of THREE marks for supporters
« Reply #190 on: September 28, 2023, 09:40:AM »
I am afraid I now find your reasoning of 11.00pm to 03.00am faulty. If this were the case he would have phoned the police immediately he recovered and would have mentioned it to JB if he called him at 03.10, rather than talking about the gun in the first instance. There is also no evidence to support NB being shot in the bedroom apart from the staging of the shell casings which was part of the overall scene setting. Only hard and fast guilt supporters believe NB was shot in the bedroom.

Try this from CAL.
Thanks Bubo,I may re-write a scenario just to make things clear.I didn't say that Nevill was shot in the bedroom,I believe he only made it to the top of the stairs or there about before being shot.

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Re: The beauty of THREE marks for supporters
« Reply #191 on: September 28, 2023, 10:37:AM »
Nevill and June received there first 5/4 shots in/by the bed.

Not surprising as Bamber entered the bedroom around 2am.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2023, 10:48:AM by Adam »
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Re: The beauty of THREE marks for supporters
« Reply #192 on: September 28, 2023, 10:39:AM »
Nevill and June received there first 5/4 shots in/by the bed.

Not surprising as Bamber entered the bedroom around 2am.

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Re: The beauty of THREE marks for supporters
« Reply #193 on: September 28, 2023, 10:47:AM »
Both managed to leave there beds and were found bare footed in there sleeping attire.
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Re: The beauty of THREE marks for supporters
« Reply #194 on: September 28, 2023, 12:54:PM »
Both managed to leave there beds and were found bare footed in there sleeping attire.
Yes,I suppose youv'e got a point there Adam.So in my scenario I will have Nevill getting out of bed and going down to the kitchen where he finds Sheila and things kick off.
Yes,we have to take his attire into account.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2023, 12:55:PM by snow66! »