The beauty of THREE marks for supporters

[snow66!]

Thanks Snow, I'm more inclined to think they were inflicted now and i know i mentioned the poker before, but iv'e since found out that there was a poker alongside the AGA as well as in the cupboard, makes sense really to have the poker on hand at the side of a burner?

In the Dickerson report it states,  there was also a Poker alongside of the AGA in the Kitchen shown in Potogragh 12?

Yes,there is no doubt that everyone was stumped by the burns to Nevills neck back at the time of the shootings and were quite rightly looking at all items which could have possibly made them,but I believe we finally have the answer HB.

[Zoso]

Yes,there is no doubt that everyone was stumped by the burns to Nevills neck back at the time of the shootings and were quite rightly looking at all items which could have possibly made them,but I believe we finally have the answer HB.

Your thread is called 'The Beauty of Three Marks' - Boyce's pig skin has two.

[Adam]

Cold Aga door Adam? You are the master or wry sarcasm.

Oven doors are made to be hot. Inside.

[Zoso]

Cold Aga door Adam? You are the master or wry sarcasm.

It's not boing to be boiling it's arse off in the early hours of the morning, is it?

[Jane]

Cold Aga door Adam? You are the master or wry sarcasm.

Exactly why are you taking the word of someone who's already had one theory chucked out? I suggested, when you first started talking AGAs, that you didn't have to take my word, all you needed to do was fine someone who owned one and position yourself in front of it in the same way as you'd have us believe NB was laid and you'd have your answer without the need to rely on Boyce.

[Bubo bubo]

It's not boing to be boiling it's arse off in the early hours of the morning, is it?

You do not nor cannot know whether the boiler had been filled to produce plenty of extra hot water for the additional guests the next morning or if because of the late showering by NB and the twins being bathed left the hot tank depleted. Nor can you know what had been burned by the police while NB was still by the Aga.
I am sure Boyce will have done a series of tests at different temperatures at the very least so as not to face ridicule if he only did one. Your simplistic approach and denigration of Boyce is dare I say it pathetic. I recently pointed out this to Mystic Jane who was claiming Boyce had manipulated his results to get the answer he wanted

I think there is more info on the possible Aga burns than has been divulged. It would make sense to get some idea of how long it took to get burns that were approximately the same size and shape as NB's. So one of two possible ways to do this would be a series of tests at say one hour intervals. the second would be to remove the pigskin momentarily at internals and take a picture. If NB's burns took less than four hours JB must be innocent since he could not have been there when NB came in contact with the Aga.

Just to do one test would lay Boyce open to questions he could not answer. like how long does this process take.If he could not answer he would look a fool because it would be argued that the burns could have taken 6 hours say which would still mean JB could be Liable and guilty.

[Bubo bubo]

Exactly why are you taking the word of someone who's already had one theory chucked out? I suggested, when you first started talking AGAs, that you didn't have to take my word, all you needed to do was fine someone who owned one and position yourself in front of it in the same way as you'd have us believe NB was laid and you'd have your answer without the need to rely on Boyce.

A rubbish post and a rubbish suggestion. You have criticised Boyce before. Are you now claiming you are an Aga burns expert as well as a mind reader?

[Roch]

Exactly why are you taking the word of someone who's already had one theory chucked out? I suggested, when you first started talking AGAs, that you didn't have to take my word, all you needed to do was fine someone who owned one and position yourself in front of it in the same way as you'd have us believe NB was laid and you'd have your answer without the need to rely on Boyce.

The scientist who peer reviewed said that more tests were needed to confirm. The CT ran out of time and money.

Boyce is someone who is trying to find more pieces of the jigsaw. You on the other hand want such pieces to remain hidden.

[snow66!]

Exactly why are you taking the word of someone who's already had one theory chucked out? I suggested, when you first started talking AGAs, that you didn't have to take my word, all you needed to do was fine someone who owned one and position yourself in front of it in the same way as you'd have us believe NB was laid and you'd have your answer without the need to rely on Boyce.

Yes thats a good point Jane,you have made me think of something now.
You could do a make shift test by placing a substance on the parts of the handles pointed out by Boyce and lie against it as you say,ie,felt pen or water paint to get an image on your neck,then have someone hold a tape measure next to the marks and take a photo ,then print it on here.
Excelent idea Jane,well done.

Problem is,I dont know a soul with an Aga,and of course it would have to be the same model.
Does yours look like the same model Jane? If so,might I be as bold as ask you to carry out the experiment?
Anyway,excelent idea Jane,a mirror image in ink or paint.Youv'e got me excited now!

[Adam]

The scientist who peer reviewed said that more tests were needed to confirm. The CT ran out of time and money.

Boyce is someone who is trying to find more pieces of the jigsaw. You on the other hand want such pieces to remain hidden.

And top up his pension.

[Roch]

And top up his pension.

As was Annabelle Darlow or whatever her name is, when she was happy to stop documents and images of sound moderators from being released to the defence.  I'm sure public are grateful.

[Zoso]

The scientist who peer reviewed said that more tests were needed to confirm. The CT ran out of time and money.

Boyce is someone who is trying to find more pieces of the jigsaw. You on the other hand want such pieces to remain hidden.

Not hidden, just not crushed into the wrong space.

[ILB]

And top up his pension.

Can't fault him, make any penny you can in this day and age !

[snow66!]

Anyway,I think Jane has come up with a brilliant idea ,telling people to lie against their Agas and get a mirror image in ink or paint on their neck.

Now supporters and guilters up and down the country can join in with Boyce and safely take an image from the Aga handles while the oven is cold,and then get someone to hold a tape measure or ruler along side it and take a photo.
Yes,thanks to Jane's suggestion many readers of the forum  will be checking the results of their experiments as we speak,looking at the photos in the archive here and comparing the measurements and shape of the marks.
Great idea,hopefully we will see some of the results posted here and elsewhere on the web.
Jane will probably be posting her results very soon.

Thanks again for the suggestion Jane,truly brilliant idea,why didn't anyone think of this before?

[snow66!]

It's not boing to be boiling it's arse off in the early hours of the morning, is it?

Doesn't need to be Zoso,very slow burns,probably forming sometime between 11.00-3.00.