Would June have instantly disarmed Sheila?

[Adam]

No question Nevill would.

There is disagreement from supporters over whether June would.

[Adam]

ILB says June would have stayed in bed. As she was petrified.

BuboBubo suggests June fought Sheila, shot Sheila, rang 999, tended to Nevill & read the bible to him. Some or all of these done after June had been shot 4 times.

[Adam]

My view is an out of bed and fully fit June would have had a no nonsense approach.

As she took the phone off Sheila a few hours earlier, she would have taken a rifle off her.

[Adam]

A fully fit Nevill and June out of bed would have instantly negated Sheila.

Individually both were stronger than her & had no balance, involuntary movement, coordination or docile problems.

Together Nevill & June would have resolved the issue in seconds.

[Adam]

June was probably more head of the family inside WHF. Nevill spent all day outside.

As a wife, mother and grandmother she would not tolerate any rubbish in her house.

June was doing Sheila's shopping in London and would be well aware of Sheila's physical and mental weaknesses.

[Adam]

The evidence is everyone went to bed. If Sheila made enough noise to wake them, both may get out of bed.

If only one got out of bed, the other would quickly follow if things did not quieten down. They were husband and wife and Sheila was there daughter.

Nevill would have asked for June's assistance. In the unlikely event he needed help.

[ILB]

My view is an out of bed and fully fit June would have had a no nonsense approach.

As she took the phone off Sheila a few hours earlier, she would have taken a rifle off her.

She didn't take the phone off her in the manner you are suggesting. Shelia obviously couldn't be bothered to talk anymore

[ILB]

Adam takes innocuous events and attempts to twists then to the detriment of Bamber.

[Adam]

She didn't take the phone off her in the manner you are suggesting. Shelia obviously couldn't be bothered to talk anymore

Sheila didn't talk to PB. She just said 'yes' or 'no' for 3 minutes.

June took the phone back and said Sheila was going to bed.

Meanwhile Bamber was telling Julie Sheila was ready.

[ILB]

Sheila didn't talk to PB. She just said 'yes' or 'no' for 3 minutes.

June took the phone back and said Sheila was going to bed.

Meanwhile Bamber was telling Julie Sheila was ready.

According to Julie he was.

But not till he dumped her

[Steve_uk]

She didn't take the phone off her in the manner you are suggesting. Shelia obviously couldn't be bothered to talk anymore

But she wasn't rude or abusive, suggesting it was more a case of fatigue than malice.

[Adam]

But she wasn't rude or abusive, suggesting it was more a case of fatigue than malice.

Makes you wonder why Sheila took the call in the first place.

Seems June told her to.

[ILB]

But she wasn't rude or abusive, suggesting it was more a case of fatigue than malice.

Exactly my point.

We have all got a phonecall at night or at a time when we can't be arsed to talk to someone. And when we do it is simple one word answers ( we are wanting the conversation to end)

[Adam]

Exactly my point.

We have all got a phonecall at night or at a time when we can't be arsed to talk to someone. And when we do it is simple one word answers ( we are wanting the conversation to end)

Sheila would have just said she didn't want to speak. But was too docile & June had control over her.

Resulting in 3 minutes of one word answers.

You need to accept things rather than constantly make excuses. Sheila was not capable of becoming Laura Croft. But you can claim a MOJ. With a good reason.

[ILB]

Sheila would have just said she didn't want to speak. But was too docile & June had control over her.

Resulting in 3 minutes of one word answers.

You need to accept things rather than constantly make excuses.

How is that making excuses?

You are the one suggesting June forced Shelia on the phone.

You are the one reinforcing someone having control over something mundane as a phonecall.

Shelia obviously couldn't be arsed to talk

Ludicrous