Why didn't police make the coal scuttle an exhibit?

[Bubo bubo]

Everyone's scenarios are all over the place at the moment.Not sure who thinks the police moved Nevill and who doesn't.Regarding this,you also have to decide when the final four head shots were inflicted.

What I am getting at is,if Nevill was moved to the scuttle after death and rigor mortis had set in,why is he curled up in a ball?
What I mean is,if JB shot and killed Nevill before he fell abainst the Aga,why did his body curl up?
Isn't that a strange position to fall into once yout stone dead after four head shots? And make no mistake about it,none of the four final head shots could have been inflicted once Nevill hit the floor lying on his right side,no way.

Sheila was shot in the brain and instantly fell down flat,June was shot twice in the head and was found in a similar pose.Why did Nevill curl up so tightly when he fell to the floor after his head shots,is this possible? Can instinct cause you to curl up with your knees touching your chin more or less without any brain function?

Knees tucked in and arms outstretched.Again,how could you stretch your arms out straight with no brain function to do so?
YET,for those of you who think Nevill was moved from the Aga by the police after rigor mortis had set in,this must indeed be the position he was lying in in front of the Aga.

Lucky that Nevill stretched both arms out in front of him after he was dead,this looks natural once he was moved to the scuttle with them hanging down towards the floor,just as gravity would have done had he died there.

No,I really dont think Nevill was moved by anyone,he was shot slumped over the scuttle with his arms hanging down.

During the first world war many dead soldiers where found in a foetal position. I have posted this fact before. Apparently when you die in agony it is a position that is adopted

[snow66!]

During the first world war many dead soldiers where found in a foetal position. I have posted this fact before. Apparently when you die in agony it is a position that is adopted

Even when you are shot several times in the head Bubo? Wouldn't you die instantly?

[Hardy Boy]

During the first world war many dead soldiers where found in a foetal position. I have posted this fact before. Apparently when you die in agony it is a position that is adopted

A lot of people sleep that way as well.

[Bubo bubo]

Even when you are shot several times in the head Bubo?

I do not think he was shot four times in the head before adopting that position maybe once. The fact is the other three could have been made by SC and just happened to be close to the existing one. I do have another suggestion it can be found in this link.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10682.msg530610.html#msg530610

of course the other possibility is that they were administered just before he collapsed for the last time or his head had 'flopped' into a position which allowed this when he was pinned against the Aga

[snow66!]

I do not think he was shot four times in the head before adopting that position maybe once. The fact is the other three could have been made by SC and just happened to be close to the existing one. I do have another suggestion it can be found in this link.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10682.msg530610.html#msg530610

of course the other possibility is that they were administered just before he collapsed for the last time or his head had 'flopped' into a position which allowed this when he was pinned against the Aga

Thanks Bubo.If June was tending Nevill while he was against the Aga,wouldn't this action cause him to move or be moved by June therefore his back would not be firmly against the Aga continually for the marks to form?
Doesn't your scenario work just as well without the police moving Nevill Bubo? They could still have accidentally killed June and used the Aga couldn't they? What would be the difference?

[ILB]

I believe he was shot four times upstairs and then subsequently beaten.

I believe he got back downstairs to the kitchen and slumped on the chair before receiving the final four head shots.


Obviously including the struggle in the kitchen and the aga. And the burns

[snow66!]

I believe he was shot four times upstairs and then subsequently beaten.

I believe he got back downstairs to the kitchen and slumped on the chair before receiving the final four head shots.


Obviously including the struggle in the kitchen and the aga. And the burns

Yes I agree with that ILB,but I think his back was burned before he was shot at all.

[Adam]

Yes I agree with that ILB,but I think his back was burned before he was shot at all.

How?

[Bubo bubo]

Thanks Bubo.If June was tending Nevill while he was against the Aga,wouldn't this action cause him to move or be moved by June therefore his back would not be firmly against the Aga continually for the marks to form?
Doesn't your scenario work just as well without the police moving Nevill Bubo? They could still have accidentally killed June and used the Aga couldn't they? What would be the difference?

No because once he had died she retreated to the box room. I believe he was stuck against the Aga possibly his PJ top pierced by the handle (see shape and location of tear) and was incapable of much independent movement and was too heavy a dead weight for June to move him

[snow66!]

How?

See the 'Three hour Aga burns' topic Adam.

[Adam]

See the 'Three hour Aga burns' topic Adam.

Just give me a sentance.

[snow66!]

No because once he had died she retreated to the box room. I believe he was stuck against the Aga possibly his PJ top pierced by the handle (see shape and location of tear) and was incapable of much independent movement and was too heavy a dead weight for June to move him

Yes,he may well have been attached as it were by his pyjama jacket getting torn and snagged to an Aga handle Bubo,this would also have moved the jacket to the side and allowed the hot parts of the Aga direct contact with Nevills skin.

[snow66!]

Just give me a sentance.

Four years for gross spamming offences against the human race on 'The Jeremy Bamber Website'.

How's that?

[Adam]

Four years for gross spamming offences against the human race on 'The Jeremy Bamber Website'.

How's that?

So no reason.

[snow66!]

So no reason.

You know there are some of us who think that Nevill may have been knocked out and fell against the Aga before regaining conciousness and being shot.