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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #255 on: September 14, 2013, 08:44:PM »
Sheila never was this vindictive personage obsessed with money,which is part of the Defence's problem. She was an easily-led,gullible girl and in this state the perfect scapegoat for Jeremy's evil scheme. Jeremy can still back out even after his first telephone call to Julie,but then comes that fateful programme about miscarriages and the injustice is brought back to the forefront of Jeremy's mind as his children failed to be born,whereas Sheila has the mainstay of the twins. How terrible that they all have to die just so Jeremy can buy a wine bar in Poole and start afresh..





Steve you're incorrigible. ;D ;D  Sheila had lost interest in everything and everybody,including the twins. She was a very sick girl,,who hadn't received the support that she so badly needed,,simply because nobody understood her,or her illness,,,not even doctors or psychiatrists.

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #256 on: September 14, 2013, 08:46:PM »


Absolutely Steve dear. I'm fairly certain that there are times when one or two of us here may, during those times when you irritate us, fantasize about planning your demise, but as MOST of the time you amuse us, we'd rather have you alive and with us :-* :-* :-*




I second that,April. :-*

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #257 on: September 14, 2013, 08:48:PM »
He never did directly confess,but dropped the following hints:

1) The hitman story with the £2000 pay off.
2)A glove came off in the fight with Nevill.
3)"I'm the only one who knows what happened that night"
4) "So I either stay with you or confess to Essex Police".
5) "I don't feel anything for any of them..maybe there is something wrong with me.."

This was in addition to his expressed loathing of his parents to Julie,his contemplation over months how and if he could bring himself to do it,his speculation to Charles Marsden about the Farm burning down..

Really? And yet in a conversation with Colin, Julie told him that Jeremy told her which window HE left by?

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #258 on: September 14, 2013, 08:52:PM »
So because of that programme and with no more thought Jeremy pops back to WHF on his mother's old bone shaker across the fields complete with marigold gloves and wet suit and climbs through a window casually shooting the only family he has ever known?  This doesn't make the slightest sense steve and I think you are just playing games with us. ;D
No because the dislike for his family verging on hatred is corroborated by independent sources.

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #259 on: September 14, 2013, 08:52:PM »


Well Steve, given that previously you've had Jeremy planning this action whilst sitting in his tractor earlier in the day, and then laying a trail with the placement of the gun, I fail to see how any programe shown at a later time could act as a trigger point for something already set in motion..........and if Sheila had been in the state that you now conveniently for your current theory say she inhabited, how would she coherently have written that she wished she hadn't been horrid to Jeremy.

Did that tractor have a canopy April? It's important, Jeremy answered 'no comment' when SJ asked him that question - the case might rest on it!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #260 on: September 14, 2013, 08:56:PM »

STEEEVE!! WHAT is with this bollox about Sheila being a vindictive (and PERSON is a more apt description of her than personage) YOU are the only one who ever uses the word in relation to her. Furthermore, you labour the point of miscarriage. Suzette already had 3 or 4 children. She was a mature woman, WHY would she want to create another child with a BOY, emotionally little more than a child himself, and WHY do you think she would contemplate allowing herself to BECOME pregnant. Oh yes, one more thing, Sheila was not the mainstay of the twins, she shared them with Colin for such time as her mental health allowed for it.
Maybe Jeremy began to wonder whether Suzette's miscarriages were genuine,who knows? I meant that the twins were important to Sheila when she was well enough to look after them,and it's unpardonable that Jeremy should do harm to people who had done nothing to Jeremy,not that I'm excusing Jeremy's killing of his parents.

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #261 on: September 14, 2013, 08:58:PM »
Maybe Jeremy began to wonder whether Suzette's miscarriages were genuine,who knows? I meant that the twins were important to Sheila when she was well enough to look after them,and it's unpardonable that Jeremy should do harm to people who had done nothing to Jeremy,not that I'm excusing Jeremy's killing of his parents.
Sorry Steve, I lost you somewhere in the barn area when we were discussing rabbits. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #262 on: September 14, 2013, 09:00:PM »
Sheila never was this vindictive personage obsessed with money,which is part of the Defence's problem. She was an easily-led,gullible girl and in this state the perfect scapegoat for Jeremy's evil scheme. Jeremy can still back out even after his first telephone call to Julie,but then comes that fateful programme about miscarriages and the injustice is brought back to the forefront of Jeremy's mind as his children failed to be born,whereas Sheila has the mainstay of the twins. How terrible that they all have to die just so Jeremy can buy a wine bar in Poole and start afresh..

Given that no one here, or during the trail, EVER accused Sheila of being vindictive or obsessed with money -  the problem would seem to be yours. Your accusation demonstrates that you don't seem to understand that the motive (as far as the defence is concerned) was her mental illness!!

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #263 on: September 14, 2013, 09:00:PM »
Did that tractor have a canopy April? It's important, Jeremy answered 'no comment' when SJ asked him that question - the case might rest on it!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yes and I think Jeremy had begun to regret the murders from an early stage. The photographs I see of him now his looks have faded. I have been searching for my post on Jeremy in his prison cell so far without success.

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #264 on: September 14, 2013, 09:02:PM »
Yes and I think Jeremy had begun to regret the murders from an early stage. The photographs I see of him now his looks have faded. I have been searching for my post on Jeremy in his prison cell so far without success.

There is a god after all!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #265 on: September 14, 2013, 09:03:PM »
It's popped up again:  Jeremy finished his last Braille cell,replaced the embossed leather-bound tome on the shelf,took off his glasses and squinted into the adjacent shaving mirror,noting the nascent double chin,the slightly thicker lineaments,the flecks of grey in hair which had once sheened in the midday sun,and wondered  for the first time where was his home,his space.Never before had he felt rejected,yet he didn’t belong with the Bambers;they had been too old for child-rearing and unable to offer the physicality and vibrancy a fractious boy needed,and as the young Jeremy grew his new parents in his eyes became guilty of more than omission,as June’s moralizing gaze gave vent to the execrations that would be his downfall. Jeremy had not belonged with them,he had not belonged with the landed gentry of Gresham’s,and he did not belong with the murderers,rapists and nonces with which he shared a roof,some of whom would slit his throat for twopence as he turned his back to make a telephone call from the booth at the side of the stairwell.

Jeremy tried to understand this insidious alienation as he looked round his cell staring at objects he would normally only notice cursorily: the eclectic mix of staples and appurtenances,the blue coffee mug, the plastic spoon and damp sugar sachet,the pocket-comb standing perhaps incongruously with the Turkish horse hair shaving brush,or was this hybrid somehow fitting of Jeremy’s sum life experience? Jeremy had clung on to the materialism which adoption had brung,somehow dulling the senses of his natural separation, the chain of events unleashed as this first umbilical chord had been cut.

As Jeremy dimmed the light he thought of his natural mother,and wondered whether she had been pressurized like Sheila into forsaking her child,wondered as to the societal pressures which forced the severance of the familial bond,triggering Jeremy’s immunity to all outside forces as he became mentally removed from all reality,cocooned in a make-believe world where artificial stimulants filled this vacuum:a world where June the wife,not mother  never knew the meaning of the phrase “charity begins at home”as she arranged the carnations and calla lilies at the Church altar,and the well-intentioned yet workaholic Nevill affirmed the truth of the saying “a rich man’s charity can be a cold business”.For the first time Jeremy weighed his father’s opprobrium as his thoughts turned three hundred miles south to the doings of his natural father.

 As Major Leslie Marsham closed the red moreen curtains on Hampton Court Green  on the eventide which the scarlet setting sun did attest had arrived,his countenance became a little more heavy,as he thought just for a moment how life might have been,had his firstborn never been dissevered,and as he deposed the latest newspaper on the white deal table and ascended the Tudor staircase with a slightly more weary step than usual he dismissed such thoughts,and entered the bedchamber where Juliet was waiting for him.

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #266 on: September 14, 2013, 09:05:PM »
Yes and I think Jeremy had begun to regret the murders from an early stage. The photographs I see of him now his looks have faded. I have been searching for my post on Jeremy in his prison cell so far without success.
Oh that's a shame steve, think I can still remember the gist. 
I would imagine almost 30 years without natural ight and air, processed prison food to name but a few reasons are enough to age anyone and fade their looks, not forgetting the unremitting battle he faces to clear his name. 

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #267 on: September 14, 2013, 09:06:PM »
It's popped up again:  Jeremy finished his last Braille cell,replaced the embossed leather-bound tome on the shelf,took off his glasses and squinted into the adjacent shaving mirror,noting the nascent double chin,the slightly thicker lineaments,the flecks of grey in hair which had once sheened in the midday sun,and wondered  for the first time where was his home,his space.Never before had he felt rejected,yet he didn’t belong with the Bambers;they had been too old for child-rearing and unable to offer the physicality and vibrancy a fractious boy needed,and as the young Jeremy grew his new parents in his eyes became guilty of more than omission,as June’s moralizing gaze gave vent to the execrations that would be his downfall. Jeremy had not belonged with them,he had not belonged with the landed gentry of Gresham’s,and he did not belong with the murderers,rapists and nonces with which he shared a roof,some of whom would slit his throat for twopence as he turned his back to make a telephone call from the booth at the side of the stairwell.

Jeremy tried to understand this insidious alienation as he looked round his cell staring at objects he would normally only notice cursorily: the eclectic mix of staples and appurtenances,the blue coffee mug, the plastic spoon and damp sugar sachet,the pocket-comb standing perhaps incongruously with the Turkish horse hair shaving brush,or was this hybrid somehow fitting of Jeremy’s sum life experience? Jeremy had clung on to the materialism which adoption had brung,somehow dulling the senses of his natural separation, the chain of events unleashed as this first umbilical chord had been cut.

As Jeremy dimmed the light he thought of his natural mother,and wondered whether she had been pressurized like Sheila into forsaking her child,wondered as to the societal pressures which forced the severance of the familial bond,triggering Jeremy’s immunity to all outside forces as he became mentally removed from all reality,cocooned in a make-believe world where artificial stimulants filled this vacuum:a world where June the wife,not mother  never knew the meaning of the phrase “charity begins at home”as she arranged the carnations and calla lilies at the Church altar,and the well-intentioned yet workaholic Nevill affirmed the truth of the saying “a rich man’s charity can be a cold business”.For the first time Jeremy weighed his father’s opprobrium as his thoughts turned three hundred miles south to the doings of his natural father.

 As Major Leslie Marsham closed the red moreen curtains on Hampton Court Green  on the eventide which the scarlet setting sun did attest had arrived,his countenance became a little more heavy,as he thought just for a moment how life might have been,had his firstborn never been dissevered,and as he deposed the latest newspaper on the white deal table and ascended the Tudor staircase with a slightly more weary step than usual he dismissed such thoughts,and entered the bedchamber where Juliet was waiting for him.


That doesn't belong in this thread Steve!! This is the thread in which we are discussing Julie LYING in her witness statement in respect to the cheque book fraud!!

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #268 on: September 14, 2013, 09:07:PM »
Given that no one here, or during the trail, EVER accused Sheila of being vindictive or obsessed with money -  the problem would seem to be yours. Your accusation demonstrates that you don't seem to understand that the motive (as far as the defence is concerned) was her mental illness!!
But a woman in psychosis is not bothered about covering her tracks,which is why the case against Sheila is so flimsy..

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #269 on: September 14, 2013, 09:07:PM »
steve yours would have faded if you had been banged up for 28 years for a crime you did not commit.