Author Topic: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002  (Read 42475 times)

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Offline lookout

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #75 on: September 13, 2013, 07:57:PM »
Of course it would, Jeremy knew about it and SJ knew he knew. Julie and Susan Battersby didn't attend the bank of their own accord, they were taken their by SJ who knew with his intervention, the manager would not press charges. He needed to make sure that the defence couldn't use it to discredit Julie and if they did, that they had the facade of their so called 'confession' to hide behind.




That's just how it was,Caroline.Bribery and corruption.

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #76 on: September 13, 2013, 08:03:PM »
Hello april steve means she sent all the stuff she had nicked to the local Jumble Sale to raise money for a new church roof ;D ;D ;D ;D that is how her charity work started. ;D

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #77 on: September 13, 2013, 08:06:PM »
In fact Jeremy never expressed any regret over the deaths to anyone did he,nor venture any information to his Police interrogators willingly. Often those who are not so good at writing do at least attempt to compensate in their conversation,but not a bit of it with Jeremy.

I wonder what he had to hide?

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #78 on: September 13, 2013, 08:07:PM »
Hello april steve means she sent all the stuff she had nicked to the local Jumble Sale to raise money for a new church roof ;D ;D ;D ;D that is how her charity work started. ;D

Ever the philanthropist  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #79 on: September 13, 2013, 08:10:PM »
In fact Jeremy never expressed any regret over the deaths to anyone did he,nor venture any information to his Police interrogators willingly. Often those who are not so good at writing do at least attempt to compensate in their conversation,but not a bit of it with Jeremy.

I wonder what he had to hide?

Nothing, he answered the questions he was asked up until the end when SJ simply kept repeating the same stuff. What did Julie have to hide? Why did she and Battersby lie and say that she went to the bank of her own accord? That's the question being asked Steve - trying answering that question instead of trying to divert.
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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #80 on: September 13, 2013, 08:11:PM »
steve some people prefer not to talk about their sadness and hurt they keep it bottled up inside them and sorry to say they suffer the most as sharing your feelings with a friend or relative can be a great help what a pity he felt he could not share his sadness with Julie in view of the fact he was able to share his thoughts of hating his parents and planning to murder them all. :(

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #81 on: September 13, 2013, 08:15:PM »
Caroline  ;D ;D ;D always put other people's needs and feelings before her own ;D

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #82 on: September 13, 2013, 08:16:PM »
Nothing, he answered the questions he was asked up until the end when SJ simply kept repeating the same stuff. What did Julie have to hide? Why did she and Battersby lie and say that she went to the bank of her own accord? That's the question being asked Steve - trying answering that question instead of trying to divert.
If you're referring to her testimony we don't know this for sure.

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #83 on: September 13, 2013, 08:19:PM »
Most of the stolen stuff was thrown away or given to charity shops. The crime wouldn't have come out otherwise and Julie wasn't treated any differently than anyone else at the time who had defrauded a bank.





So, disposing of evidence, then.

Weren't treated any differently?  How many 'cheque book fraudsters' had a personal escort by a policeman to meet with the manager of the bank they had defrauded to allow them not to be prosecuted?  :o

I think Julie and her mate Susan were treated VERY differently.

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #84 on: September 13, 2013, 08:20:PM »



That's just how it was,Caroline.Bribery and corruption.




Those involved in the Jeremy Bamber case are so deep into the mire that Jeremys' predicament will never be resolved.  It only needs one person to set-up a chain reaction,,and that's not going to happen,,as they're all as thick as thieves and have gained,at the expense of Jeremy.
So much for love and respect for the fellow man. How can any of them sit back knowing that they all played a part in convicting an innocent man.?

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #85 on: September 13, 2013, 08:22:PM »
If you're referring to her testimony we don't know this for sure.

Don't know what for sure? That she lied?? Of course she did Steve!! She said they went of their own accord and they didn't!! Are you suggesting Allan Dovey lied? For what reason would he have to lie? Absolutely none!! She lied and his statement proves it.

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #86 on: September 13, 2013, 08:25:PM »




So, disposing of evidence, then.

Weren't treated any differently?  How many 'cheque book fraudsters' had a personal escort by a policeman to meet with the manager of the bank they had defrauded to allow them not to be prosecuted?  :o

I think Julie and her mate Susan were treated VERY differently.
It's evident to me that these two girls were just another task Mr. Dovey had to deal with that day and the guidelines were that for such an amount nobody would be prosecuted. It was an unusual circumstance anyway for a thief to offer to pay the money back,and as long as the two were barred from the bank in any future transactions the manager wasn't bothered further.

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #87 on: September 13, 2013, 08:28:PM »
Hello april steve means she sent all the stuff she had nicked to the local Jumble Sale to raise money for a new church roof ;D ;D ;D ;D that is how her charity work started. ;D



How very big hearted of her, Susan.

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #88 on: September 13, 2013, 08:30:PM »
It's evident to me that these two girls were just another task Mr. Dovey had to deal with that day and the guidelines were that for such an amount nobody would be prosecuted. It was an unusual circumstance anyway for a thief to offer to pay the money back,and as long as the two were barred from the bank in any future transactions the manager wasn't bothered further.





At least you recognise her as a thief.

You're deliberately missing the point.

They were escorted by a policeman so they WOULD NOT be prosecuted.  Hardly a run-of-the-mill task for a bank manager, I would think.

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Re: Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002
« Reply #89 on: September 13, 2013, 08:37:PM »
It's evident to me that these two girls were just another task Mr. Dovey had to deal with that day and the guidelines were that for such an amount nobody would be prosecuted. It was an unusual circumstance anyway for a thief to offer to pay the money back,and as long as the two were barred from the bank in any future transactions the manager wasn't bothered further.

That's ridiculous and reads like a line from the 'Lady Killers' - if that were common policy people would be defrauding the bank left right and centre. It was almost £1,000 which in 1985 would have been quite a large sum. You are doing what you usually do - playing down the significance of Julie's misdemeanour's. The ONLY reason they were given SPECIAL treatment was because they were accompanied by a police officer and the only reason he was there was to try and limit the affects of Julie Mugford's criminal past  - which was in danger of affecting her credibility as a witness.