Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002

[tyler]

Susan, I imagine that they feel proud to have met their own agendas. Had they NOT done so, Julie would have had a criminal record and no career and the family would have lost out on "their" inheritance. I think that their only agenda now is making certain Jeremy stays where he is.

Excellent post lovely April,and one I agree with entirely!

[Patti]

What about this bit.....

Even if we were persuaded that an officer visited the bank with the girls, we would be far from persuaded that it was DS Jones. The fact that he was recorded as being on a rest day suggests to us that it was unlikely that he would be at the bank. The point made by Mr Turner about alterations, in our judgment, loses force when it is appreciated that Mr Dovey was acting as manger of the branch at the time and we can see how the alterations could have come about whether Mr Dovey was present or not when his statement was drafted.

[Jane]

Hi Grahame  if the rellies are afraid Jeremy will kill them on his release they must be guilty of something.  If it was proved he was innocent they should be pleased and happy to hand everything back to him that was rightfully his.

Susan, the irony is that the reason they helped put Jeremy IN prison is because they believed that what was rightfully HIS was rightfully THEIRS.

[susan]

Hi april that is so sad as I am a firm believer the owner of any property/money should go to the person they want it to go to not people who think they have a divine right as they are relatives Jeremy was Ralph Bamber's son irrespective of the blood running through his veins

[Jane]

What about this bit.....

Even if we were persuaded that an officer visited the bank with the girls, we would be far from persuaded that it was DS Jones. The fact that he was recorded as being on a rest day suggests to us that it was unlikely that he would be at the bank. The point made by Mr Turner about alterations, in our judgment, loses force when it is appreciated that Mr Dovey was acting as manger of the branch at the time and we can see how the alterations could have come about whether Mr Dovey was present or not when his statement was drafted.

At the risk of sounding psychotic it sounds to me as if every shred of anything which may help Jeremy has been twisted into something other than what it originally was.

[Jane]

Hi april that is so sad as I am a firm believer the owner of any property/money should go to the person they want it to go to not people who think they have a divine right as they are relatives Jeremy was Ralph Bamber's son irrespective of the blood running through his veins

Susan, to most parents of adopted children that is the case and it is upheld in law. However, and this is generally where property, land and wealth are up for grabs, the belief isn't shared by all.

[Patti]

At the risk of sounding psychotic it sounds to me as if every shred of anything which may help Jeremy has been twisted into something other than what it originally was.

The CAO are more or less saying that Dovey is lying. Why would they need persuading that an off duty officer had gone to bank with the two girls....Its obvious that he did, the manager said so, even to the point where the officer had introduced the girls to him....then the same said officer came back to take the statement and what they go on to say or are more or less saying that Dovey's 1st initial statement is not available because it might have been conveniently destroyed....

[tyler]

The CAO are more or less saying that Dovey is lying. Why would they need persuading that an off duty officer had gone to bank with the two girls....Its obvious that he did, the manager said so, even to the point where the officer had introduced the girls to him....then the same said officer came back to take the statement and what they go on to say or are more or less saying that Dovey's 1st initial statement is not available because it might have been conveniently destroyed....

In otherwords,Dovey's statement was destroyed as it showed that it was DS Jones that drafted and signed the statement!   

[lookout]

 Mr Dovey,," And your name is,officer."? Voice in the background. " Don't tell him,,,,,,,Jones ".
Like something from Dads' Army.

[Patti]

In otherwords,Dovey's statement was destroyed as it showed that it was DS Jones that drafted and signed the statement!   

Its quite possible Tyler.
And there is this:

We do not accept that any impropriety by the police has been established on the evidence available, either as to their conduct at the time of the visit to the bank or by way of some attempt to cover up their role in the matter.

[Patti]

In otherwords,Dovey's statement was destroyed as it showed that it was DS Jones that drafted and signed the statement!   

Did Jones utilise his day off by taking the girls to the bank....Did Jones go back the following week to take a statement....Dovey confirms this was the same man that attended the bank with the girls....yet the COA through it out based on destroyed evidence and memory....Utter BS.......and gross misconduct.

[Alias]

It is awful to say this, but I have given up hope that Jeremy Bamber will ever be able to prove he did not commit those murders. As I feel right now, he will stay in prison until the day he dies. Sorry, I feel bad saying this, but his case is going nowhere and never has been even close to.
There are some serious mishandlings, destruction of evidence, obvious lies etc etc which are looked upon with indifference by authorities. What chance does he stand in all this?
I do believe he would stand a better chance if he had family fighting for him, but he doesn´t.The family he grew up with all work against him and don´t even consider him a family member.
A sad fate.

[Jane]

Did Jones utilise his day off by taking the girls to the bank....Did Jones go back the following week to take a statement....Dovey confirms this was the same man that attended the bank with the girls....yet the COA through it out based on destroyed evidence and memory....Utter BS.......and gross misconduct.

Patti, if we are going to be pedantic, it's possible to say that although Jones MAY have attended the bank on two occasions, in only ONE was he acting in his capacity as a police officer, on the other he was merely a companion to the girls and a private citizen.

[Jane]

It is awful to say this, but I have given up hope that Jeremy Bamber will ever be able to prove he did not commit those murders. As I feel right now, he will stay in prison until the day he dies. Sorry, I feel bad saying this, but his case is going nowhere and never has been even close to.
There are some serious mishandlings, destruction of evidence, obvious lies etc etc which are looked upon with indifference by authorities. What chance does he stand in all this?
I do believe he would stand a better chance if he had family fighting for him, but he doesn´t.The family he grew up with all work against him and don´t even consider him a family member.
A sad fate.

With great sadness Alias, I concur with all you say, for NOW, but I continue to hope that something positive WILL happen. Many people not involved with the forum are saying that right from the start they felt something was not right with the outcome of the case. Perhaps the new book will nudge people out of their inertia.

[lookout]

It is awful to say this, but I have given up hope that Jeremy Bamber will ever be able to prove he did not commit those murders. As I feel right now, he will stay in prison until the day he dies. Sorry, I feel bad saying this, but his case is going nowhere and never has been even close to.
There are some serious mishandlings, destruction of evidence, obvious lies etc etc which are looked upon with indifference by authorities. What chance does he stand in all this?
I do believe he would stand a better chance if he had family fighting for him, but he doesn´t.The family he grew up with all work against him and don´t even consider him a family member.
A sad fate.

Sad to say,Alias,,I feel the same too. It's a good job Jeremy doesn't though,or he'd have given up years ago.I know I would have done,,and would now be a shadow of my former self.
Nothing short of a miracle will get him out of there.
 I think the rellies will make sure of that.They've got too much weight behind them after befriending all those officers concerned.