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What ties Bamber to the bike?
« on: November 12, 2022, 08:56:PM »
He stole June's bike just before the massacre.

Julie's WS said he planned to cycle.

His eventual reason given for stealing June's bike is very weak.

Walking 6 miles that night is a lot of walking.

It would be easier to cycle than walk.

It would be quicker to cycle than walk.

There were lots of cycle route options on good terrain.

The prosecution case is he rang his cottage as unsure of BT tracking technology. He would need to ring the police from his cottage shortly afterwards. So had to cycle back.

He would know the best cycle routes which had good terrain & where he would not be seen.

He could cycle the longest/safest route to WHF along the sea wall as had no time constraints. Walking would take too long.

Bamber said his relationship with Julie had been coming to a close for 6 months. The judge asked why did he then steal June's bike for Julie.

Bamber was fully fit & able to cycle.

Bamber had the option of trying out June's bike at WHF prior to stealing it.

After the horror of killing everyone, Bamber would not want dwell & want to move onto the next stage at his cottage as quickly as possible. Walking would take too long.

Bamber just needed a bike for a few days. For one mission. So stole June's. No point wasting money buying a bike just to use once. 

The police case is he cycled. Which has been accepted by multiple individuals & legal departments since 1985.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2022, 09:02:PM by Adam »
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Re: What ties Bamber to the bike?
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2022, 09:06:PM »
ILB posted today - 'nothing ties bamber to using a bike'.

Obviously he is incorrect again.
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Re: What ties Bamber to the bike?
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2022, 09:30:PM »
ILB posted today - 'nothing ties bamber to using a bike'.

Obviously he is incorrect again.

I agree with ILB just because Bamber had access to a bike does not mean he used it on the night, if guilty I maintain that he would have walked.

There is zero evidence Junes bike was used on the night you just keep persisting with this daft notion as your case collapses without it.

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Re: What ties Bamber to the bike?
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2022, 09:34:PM »
I agree with ILB just because Bamber had access to a bike does not mean he used it on the night, if guilty I maintain that he would have walked.

There is zero evidence Junes bike was used on the night you just keep persisting with this daft notion as your case collapses without it.

Did you not read the thread post?

Why would Bamber walk when he could cycle?
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Re: What ties Bamber to the bike?
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2022, 10:01:PM »
Nothing evidential wise ties him to the bike.

You have no idea that he stole the bike from June

You are completely without foundation of mother and son diaglogue in terms of their relationship. You rely on snippets of what MM said. Which in turn bamber probably said to her when he was venting about June.

In a mundane reason. Jeremy could have merely lent the bicycle. For the benefit of Julie or something else rudimentary or mundane
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Re: What ties Bamber to the bike?
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2022, 10:18:PM »
Nothing evidential wise ties him to the bike.

You have no idea that he stole the bike from June

You are completely without foundation of mother and son diaglogue in terms of their relationship. You rely on snippets of what MM said. Which in turn bamber probably said to her when he was venting about June.

In a mundane reason. Jeremy could have merely lent the bicycle. For the benefit of Julie or something else rudimentary or mundane

What would be evidential?

Do you believe Mary Mugford lied under oath?
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Re: What ties Bamber to the bike?
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2022, 10:44:PM »
ILB posted today - 'nothing ties bamber to using a bike'.

Obviously he is incorrect again.

Can you place Jeremy bamber operating that bicycle conclusively that night in question?

We're his fingerprints on the handle bars ?

Did an eye witness see him cycling?

Completely rehtorical
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Re: What ties Bamber to the bike?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2022, 10:46:PM »
What would be evidential?

Do you believe Mary Mugford lied under oath?

That's the point my friend

The bike was a narrative

Purely speculative
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Re: What ties Bamber to the bike?
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2022, 12:03:AM »
Don't dispute that MM was in r :-*regards to bamber venting frustration about June.

He may have done on many of occasion.

This however only became damaging against him because of the circumstance of being charged of five counts of murder.

Other than that it's a common thing that half of adolescents and early twenties do on a regular basis.

From a police perspective it's a gift

From reality you can balance it
« Last Edit: November 13, 2022, 12:04:AM by ILB »
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Re: What ties Bamber to the bike?
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2022, 12:06:AM »
Shelia was equally critical about June than bamber was.

The difference was though she was deceased by 1986
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Re: What ties Bamber to the bike?
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2022, 12:11:AM »
That's the point my friend

The bike was a narrative

Purely speculative

So a lot ties Bamber to cycling on the bike.

However there is no CCTV or witnesses that saw him on it or any of the victims blood on the bike.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2022, 12:12:AM by Adam »
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Re: What ties Bamber to the bike?
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2022, 12:15:AM »
Don't dispute that MM was in r :-*regards to bamber venting frustration about June.

He may have done on many of occasion.

This however only became damaging against him because of the circumstance of being charged of five counts of murder.

Other than that it's a common thing that half of adolescents and early twenties do on a regular basis.

From a police perspective it's a gift

From reality you can balance it

13 year olds may become difficult. Adults no.

Bamber's hatred for a man in his 20's was very severe. According to Julie, Mary, James Richards, Brett & Bamber himself.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2022, 12:20:AM by Adam »
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Re: What ties Bamber to the bike?
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2022, 12:16:AM »
Shelia was equally critical about June than bamber was.

The difference was though she was deceased by 1986

Please provide sources.
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Re: What ties Bamber to the bike?
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2022, 12:18:AM »
Did you not read the thread post?

Why would Bamber walk when he could cycle?

Because it was dark  ;) and to cycle he would need lights so a risk of being spotted, hence he walked.

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Re: What ties Bamber to the bike?
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2022, 12:23:AM »
Because it was dark  ;) and to cycle he would need lights so a risk of being spotted, hence he walked.

So he could walk in the dark but not cycle..

Between 2 locations he lived/had lived at & worked at.
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