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« Reply #256 on: May 21, 2025, 07:57:PM »
I hesitate to post this story so don't shoot the messenger. I suppose it's too early to tell whether it's muckraking or if there's a public interest contained therein: https://youtu.be/LMIxgcYzOhY

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« Reply #257 on: May 21, 2025, 09:53:PM »
I hesitate to post this story so don't shoot the messenger. I suppose it's too early to tell whether it's muckraking or if there's a public interest contained therein: https://youtu.be/LMIxgcYzOhY

I fear you are right on this.  I suspect the dam will burst at some stage.  I think there may be several superinjuctions active currently.

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« Reply #258 on: May 22, 2025, 05:18:PM »
I fear you are right on this.  I suspect the dam will burst at some stage.  I think there may be several superinjuctions active currently.
Was that a similar injunction applied for by Ryan Giggs, to prevent knowledge of his affair coming out? How does that differ from an ordinary injunction?

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« Reply #259 on: May 22, 2025, 05:35:PM »
Was that a similar injunction applied for by Ryan Giggs, to prevent knowledge of his affair coming out? How does that differ from an ordinary injunction?

Yes, normally an injunction is against a named individual and the existence of the injunction is not secret.  However in a series of cases senior judges increased the potential ambit of injunctions way beyond what was formerly considered possible.  This type of injunction is commonly described as a superinjuction, although that is not the legal term. This can include restricting anyone, not just named defendants,  from publishing information, including information of the very existence of the injunction.  The penalties for breaching injunctions like this can be draconian.  Usually they ultimately break down because as a result of reporting in foreign publications, outside UK jurisdiction. 

The fact that social media speculation about the private life of Starmer is rife, yet the MSM is completely devoid of coverage on the various allegations made, indicates to me that there are probably several wide ranging injunctions in force.  Some journalists have dropped hints but they are being very careful indeed.  I think George Galloway has pushed the boundaries further but even he limits his statements to strong innuendo, rather than spelling out what most people who have looked into this believe. 

I suspect the lid will not be kept of this for ever, but I remember saying the same thing about Nicola Strurgeon and I was wrong on that.  Whatever injunctions she has obtained seemed to have held.

 

   

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Re: Sir Keir Starmer
« Reply #260 on: May 22, 2025, 09:21:PM »
I hesitate to post this story so don't shoot the messenger. I suppose it's too early to tell whether it's muckraking or if there's a public interest contained therein: https://youtu.be/LMIxgcYzOhY
😂😂😂. I lost count the number of times he said “Ukrainian Male Model”

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« Reply #261 on: May 22, 2025, 09:25:PM »
😂😂😂. I lost count the number of times he said “Ukrainian Male Model”

I think the word "escort" has been used a few times too! 


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« Reply #262 on: May 22, 2025, 09:47:PM »
I was thinking of the Chinese Embassy which was bombed by NATO during the war in Yugoslavia. Apparently the security services were using outdated information. It wouldn't surprise me if the guy had been passed outdated information on Starmer's previous addresses and vehicles by a hostile to the UK diplomatic embassy.

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« Reply #263 on: May 23, 2025, 05:48:AM »
I think the word "escort" has been used a few times too!
Ha Ha I forgot that one NGB.  The second one arrested is also a male model, and the third one arrested looks model material  ;).  What on earth would three Male Models (escort) have against our prime minister?

What’s the bet Farage will say something in Parliament soon?

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« Reply #264 on: May 23, 2025, 06:36:AM »
I was thinking of the Chinese Embassy which was bombed by NATO during the war in Yugoslavia. Apparently the security services were using outdated information. It wouldn't surprise me if the guy had been passed outdated information on Starmer's previous addresses and vehicles by a hostile to the UK diplomatic embassy.
Im sorry Steve, I think he’s set himself up, he’s constantly giving things away, Cagos islands, Brexit reversal, prison sentences reduced, Winter fuel payments,  maybe someone has a grudge against what he’s upto, and not happy with his Policies, it seems he’s doing stuff through the BACK DOOR?   


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« Reply #265 on: May 23, 2025, 08:44:PM »
Yes, normally an injunction is against a named individual and the existence of the injunction is not secret.  However in a series of cases senior judges increased the potential ambit of injunctions way beyond what was formerly considered possible.  This type of injunction is commonly described as a superinjuction, although that is not the legal term. This can include restricting anyone, not just named defendants,  from publishing information, including information of the very existence of the injunction.  The penalties for breaching injunctions like this can be draconian.  Usually they ultimately break down because as a result of reporting in foreign publications, outside UK jurisdiction. 

The fact that social media speculation about the private life of Starmer is rife, yet the MSM is completely devoid of coverage on the various allegations made, indicates to me that there are probably several wide ranging injunctions in force.  Some journalists have dropped hints but they are being very careful indeed.  I think George Galloway has pushed the boundaries further but even he limits his statements to strong innuendo, rather than spelling out what most people who have looked into this believe. 

I suspect the lid will not be kept of this for ever, but I remember saying the same thing about Nicola Strurgeon and I was wrong on that.  Whatever injunctions she has obtained seemed to have held.

 

 
NGB, obviously it will have go to trial, if there is any wrong doing would you say it would have to come out at the trial and then would it be public that way?   If there is an injunction would that then stop the public knowing about the trial?

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« Reply #266 on: May 23, 2025, 09:36:PM »
NGB, obviously it will have go to trial, if there is any wrong doing would you say it would have to come out at the trial and then would it be public that way?   If there is an injunction would that then stop the public knowing about the trial?

If it goes to trial it could be very interesting.  The defence are able to say what they want and unless there is a specific order by the judge the court proceedings can be fully reported.  The public would therefore know about any issues raised.  I am a bit surprised more has not got out already but it indicated to me that there are some very wide ranging injunctions in force.


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« Reply #267 on: May 24, 2025, 07:17:AM »
If it goes to trial it could be very interesting.  The defence are able to say what they want and unless there is a specific order by the judge the court proceedings can be fully reported.  The public would therefore know about any issues raised.  I am a bit surprised more has not got out already but it indicated to me that there are some very wide ranging injunctions in force.
Thanks NGB,  it could get very interesting.

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« Reply #268 on: May 24, 2025, 09:16:AM »
Is anyone able to outline exactly what is being inferred?

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« Reply #269 on: May 24, 2025, 10:06:AM »
Is anyone able to outline exactly what is being inferred?
A lot think he’s covering something up from his past Roch, there might be an injunction to prevent it coming out?  It might be,  someone is pushing to out this information to bypass this injunction, maybe through Court? Could someone have paid these three male models to do what they did, and then information hidden could come out in court?  Of course it’s could be pure speculation, but we need to know why our Prime Minister was attacked this way? I bet Putin is not happy what Starmer has been saying about the Ukraine/ Russian conflict?  They have a history of knowing what’s gone on with someone’s past?