Essex police interviews of Jeremy Bamber, September 1985...

[Enigma]

Smiffy .. the energiser bunny of anger .... just wind him up and point him in the direction you want him to go!

Smiify me old mate .... when Shona the brave said she pictured you in stockings n suspenders and a bowler hat, why did you feel the need to explain the last time you wore those items? Ha ha ha ha ha. I smell fish!

How to handle a Smiffy: just light the blue touch paper then stand well back and enjoy the display!

[grahameb]

How to handle a Smiffy: just light the blue touch paper then stand well back and enjoy the display!

PB Read Mark Anthony's speech to the crowd in Julius Caesar.

[grahameb]

Smiffy you actually said 'the wetsuit theory has been blow out of the water' without one word of irony!

Have you ever heard of a double bluff PB? Of course Smiffy knew what he was saying. We all had a go at it on another thread and found that the wetsuit theory didn't hold water, but was left high and dry.

[Enigma]

So going 'berserk with a gun' is a bit like going on a picnic then is it?
Instead of getting the cucumber sandwiches ready you drug the whole family and preload the magazines.
Then you go berserk once you have made all the preparatons!
I see .... yes that makes sense now!
I am going to call these errm unusual scenarios 'Smiffyisms' from now on!

[Jackiepreece]

I LOVE SMIFFY

[Enigma]

Smiffy you actually said 'the wetsuit theory has been blow out of the water' without one word of irony!

Hve you ever heard of a double bluff PB? Of course Smiffy knew what he was saying. We all had a go at it on another thread and found that the wetsuit theory didn't hold water, but was left high and dry.

I know he did.
That's what makes him a genius! That and the fact I have never mentioned wetsuits once in any post! :D

[grahameb]

So going 'berserk with a gun' is a bit like going on a picnic then is it?
Instead of getting the cucumber sandwiches ready you drug the whole family and preload the magazines.
Then you go berserk once you have made all the preparatons!
I see .... yes that makes sense now!
I am going to call these errm unusual scenarios 'Smiffyisms' from now on!

That was from the victim's point of view.

[grahameb]

Smiffy you actually said 'the wetsuit theory has been blow out of the water' without one word of irony!

Hve you ever heard of a double bluff PB? Of course Smiffy knew what he was saying. We all had a go at it on another thread and found that the wetsuit theory didn't hold water, but was left high and dry.

I know he did.
That's what makes him a genius! That and the fact I have never mentioned wetsuits once in any post! :D

Perhaps he assumed because you accept every other tin pot theory against JB that you believed that theory as well. Especially when you gave the impression that you had read Woffendin's article and praised him for it? Because that was all in his article.

[smiffy]

Smiffy you actually said 'the wetsuit theory has been blow out of the water' without one word of irony!

Hve you ever heard of a double bluff PB? Of course Smiffy knew what he was saying. We all had a go at it on another thread and found that the wetsuit theory didn't hold water, but was left high and dry.

I know he did.
That's what makes him a genius! That and the fact I have never mentioned wetsuits once in any post! :D

Perhaps he assumed because you accept every other tin pot theory against JB that you believed that theory as well. Especially when you gave the impression that you had read Woffendin's article and praised him for it? Because that was all in his article.

exactly grahame   

[smiffy]

Another thing to come from these interviews is the focus on the pushbike. Clearly JM had been asked about this in some detail..
But was it not the case ...that the theory was that a phone call was made from whf to JB's house and it needed to be sorted out as to how JB if guilty got from one place to the other...
Now this implies either knowledge or a strong belief that a phone call was made as JB stated or this avenue would not need to be persued.

Then there is the so called hitman's name being raised as well....if he made the call to JB... for if a hitman did do the killings then some sort of contact between JB and the hitman would need to be made so JB would know when to contact the police....ah  a reason for the call from WHF to JB's house....again this theory implies knowledge or belief by the police that there was indeed a call from WHF to JB's house.

certainly in the early days the dodgy relatives also incorporate theorys that include the phone call from WHF to JB's house...thus they know or believe in the call as well.

ah phone calls....in the interviews the police state some phone call times as definite irrefutable facts which forces JB to doubt what the order of events were..sowing confusion...
how could the police claim the phone times as absolute facts  unless they had solid phone records...maybe they do have these records....

for if they dont have these records the claims facts about the phone times given in questioning are not facts at all but mere claims which may be in error.  3.15  and 3.26.
Later evidence it seems ...if believed...mean the claimed phone time facts have to be wrong and thus the claimed facts about the times given by the police in the interview were in fact LIES and thus JB was tricked into doubting his own evidence on the matter by tactics that were disgustingly deceptive.

[Hartley]

It just sounds like they are investigating the incident to me. 

[Enigma]

I was impressed that a staunch advocate of supposed miscarriages of justice had revisited the Bamber case and realised he was wrong to ever support Bamber. I didn't say I agree with every point of Bob Woof's reasoning!

And what tin pot theories supporting Bamber's guilt have you seen me supporting?

I assume you mean the same 'tin pot' theories that convicted Bamber in Crown Court? The same ones that have kept him in prison for decades and have withstood appeal after appeal? The same 'tin pot' theories that the supporters cannot overturn?

Doesn't that suggest that the tin pots are firmly in the supporters camp!

[smiffy]

now the bonkers hitman theory created by EP and JM...
Think about the implied  drugging as suggested by the sleeping tablets line of questioning.

How does this square up...how would a hitman drug the boys and JB's parents and maybe even Sheila...he surely will not have had access to do this...and to rely on JB to do this would require a level of communication between JB and the hitman..of which nothing exists..in fact it seems to point against this line of enquiry all the way through.
so again..if there was drugging...it seems very likely that it would be Sheila doing this ...

[grahameb]

I was impressed that a staunch advocate of supposed miscarriages of justice had revisited the Bamber case and realised he was wrong to ever support Bamber. I didn't say I agree with every point of Bob Woof's reasoning!

And what tin pot theories supporting Bamber's guilt have you seen me supporting?

I assume you mean the same 'tin pot' theories that convicted Bamber in Crown Court? The same ones that have kept him in prison for decades and have withstood appeal after appeal? The same 'tin pot' theories that the supporters cannot overturn?

Doesn't that suggest that the tin pots are firmly in the supporters camp!

So what part of his article did you agree with?

[Enigma]

now the bonkers hitman theory created by EP and JM...
Think about the implied  drugging as suggested by the sleeping tablets line of questioning.

How does this square up...how would a hitman drug the boys and JB's parents and maybe even Sheila...he surely will not have had access to do this...and to rely on JB to do this would require a level of communication between JB and the hitman..of which nothing exists..in fact it seems to point against this line of enquiry all the way through.
so again..if there was drugging...it seems very likely that it would be Sheila doing this ...

There was no hitman. Julie told the police that because that's what Bamber had told her; Bamber obviously didn't want to admit to just what a vicous murderer he is so he made up the non existent hitman.

This is actually very strong circumstantial evidence for Julie telling the truth. If she was lying about Bamber and wanted him done for the murders out f spite surely she wouldn't have made up a third party hitman?  That makes no sense!