Rob's latest obstacles to the straight forward Bamber scenario.

[Kestrel19]

A question about barking dogs who are awake at 1am & hear a silent bike outside & start barking. Waking their owners in time for them to look out of the window & see Bamber?

Bamber was prepared to take the risk.

I would.

I forgot - everyone is missing ears in your world, even the dogs!!

[Adam]

And where was this bench Adam? Would it have been near the sea wall?

I have no idea.

All of Trudies vlogs have been taken down.

[Adam]

I forgot - everyone is missing ears in your world, even the dogs!!

Well everyone is sleeping. Even the dogs.

[Rob_]

Well everyone is sleeping. Even the dogs.

Just the cycle route on it's own was fraught with difficulties, but you are so desperate it was JB you cannot think straight!

He could not go anywhere near a property with dogs, umm WHF had dogs oh dear Adam your scenario really is in trouble!

[Adam]

Just the cycle route on it's own was fraught with difficulties, but you are so desperate it was JB you cannot think straight!

He could not go anywhere near a property with dogs, umm WHF had dogs oh dear Adam your scenario really is in trouble!

Fraught with difficulties?

He was cycling on empty cycle paths at 2am for 10-15 minutes. Not swimming the Amazon.

But appreciate you believe a sleeping dog would hear a silent bike.

If he actually passed any properties which had dogs.

[Rob_]

Fraught with difficulties?

He was cycling on empty cycle paths at 2am for 10-15 minutes. Not swimming the Amazon.

But appreciate you believe a sleeping dog would hear a silent bike.

If he actually passed any properties which had dogs.

Cycle paths Adam do you mean the bit up to his front door?

[Kestrel19]

Fraught with difficulties?

He was cycling on empty cycle paths at 2am for 10-15 minutes. Not swimming the Amazon.

But appreciate you believe a sleeping dog would hear a silent bike.

If he actually passed any properties which had dogs.

Adam - The “cycle paths” being referred to are via the sea wall! This is not the route that YOU keep telling us Jeremy went. The sea wall route was the only route that avoided any roads and would have taken around 35 minutes.
The alternative is via the Brook House farm track and public roads - he would have needed to cycle THROUGH Goldhangar village to get back to Head Street past many houses. He would also have needed to cycle through a neighbouring farmyard!

You are very insistent that the journey took 10-15 mins, the evidence says you are wrong! You must follow the evidence remember - it’s in Wilkinsons statement!
Now you need to decide which route he took and explain how he overcame the difficulties - either the longer time than you allowed in your scenario or having to cycle through a farmyard and along a public B road (The Maldon Road) and through the village.

If you can’t answer these satisfactorily then we’ll have to dismiss your theory and you’ll have to become a supporter!

[snow66!]

Adam - The “cycle paths” being referred to are via the sea wall! This is not the route that YOU keep telling us Jeremy went. The sea wall route was the only route that avoided any roads and would have taken around 35 minutes.
The alternative is via the Brook House farm track and public roads - he would have needed to cycle THROUGH Goldhangar village to get back to Head Street past many houses. He would also have needed to cycle through a neighbouring farmyard!

You are very insistent that the journey took 10-15 mins, the evidence says you are wrong! You must follow the evidence remember - it’s in Wilkinsons statement!
Now you need to decide which route he took and explain how he overcame the difficulties - either the longer time than you allowed in your scenario or having to cycle through a farmyard and along a public B road (The Maldon Road) and through the village.

If you can’t answer these satisfactorily then we’ll have to dismiss your theory and you’ll have to become a supporter!

Ha,ha,Kest,very goog.Give him a bit of his own medicine.

[Adam]

Now you need to decide which route he took and explain how he overcame the difficulties.

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I don't need to decide on any route. Bamber had lots of route options.

Why don't you tell us what route he should take. And the apparent difficulties of awake barking dogs. As you apparently live in the area. And don't make things up.

The evidence is Bamber stole June's bike just before the massacre. Julie said he planned to cycle after a trial run which he thought would take 15 minutes.

Wilkinson said all routes were cycle friendly.

[Kestrel19]

Now you need to decide which route he took and explain how he overcame the difficulties.

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I don't need to decide on any route. Bamber had lots of route options.

Why don't you tell us what route he should take. And the apparent difficulties of awake barking dogs. As you apparently live in the area. And don't make things up.

The evidence is Bamber stole June's bike just before the massacre. Julie said he planned to cycle after a trial run which he thought would take 15 minutes.

Wilkinson said all routes were cycle friendly.

It’s not my theory to decide Adam - it’s yours, you should be able to answer this…

[Adam]

It’s not my theory to decide Adam - it’s yours, you should be able to answer this…

Well the successful prosecution case is he cycled.

One person who would know the best route - Bamber!