On my way back after doing my work at the South Coast, and military bases in Cornwall and Devon, it became a frequent event that I would visit ' Andrew Hunter, P at his place in the general Oxfordshire area, for an hour or so for a talk and tea and biscuits, and afterwards call into see 'Ewen' at his office, to update him, and for me to be updated about things that 'Ewen' had been looking into with regards to 'Jeremys' next application to seek a new appeal. I had made arrangements to call Into see 'Andrew Hunter [ Oxfordshire area] and ' Ewen Smith' at Birmingham without having to make an appointment..