Bamber's plan

[Rob_]

I can't give a conclusive answer, but there's a possibility that the clocks in the two buildings weren't synchronized.

Thanks Jane but if you compare Wests and MB's logs their clocks must have been pretty close to being the same time.

[Jane]

Thanks Jane but if you compare Wests and MB's logs their clocks must have been pretty close to being the same time.

Nonetheless, I believe it to have been said that there was a discrepancy. Perhaps, because of the urgency of the situation, West failed to note the timing of JB's call in his haste to relay the information to Bonnet?

[Rob_]

Nonetheless, I believe it to have been said that there was a discrepancy. Perhaps, because of the urgency of the situation, West failed to note the timing of JB's call in his haste to relay the information to Bonnet?

Yes I accept West could have made a mistake, but in his first statement he says JB's call was 3.26 and his latter statement he says the call was at 3.36 as stated in his log. Sorry no excuse for this.

[Jane]

Yes I accept West could have made a mistake, but in his first statement he says JB's call was 3.26 and his latter statement he says the call was at 3.36 as stated in his log. Sorry no excuse for this.

With hindsight, perhaps so. However, I doubt that it entered their minds that such a tiny and insignificant error, in their eyes, would be argued about 36 years down the line.

[Rob_]

With hindsight, perhaps so. However, I doubt that it entered their minds that such a tiny and insignificant error, in their eyes, would be argued about 36 years down the line.

They did not think the deceit would be discovered 36 years down the line you mean Jane?

Sorry but hindsight not needed, West had his arm twisted to produce a dodgy statement in my view anyway, though at trial he stuck to his 3.36 time as in his log. Also strange he could not remember who asked him to produce the first brief version when asked?

When interviewed he looks so innocent but he deliberately produced a false statement, what else has he told porkies about?

[Adam]

They did not think the deceit would be discovered 36 years down the line you mean Jane?

Sorry but hindsight not needed, West had his arm twisted to produce a dodgy statement in my view anyway, though at trial he stuck to his 3.36 time as in his log. Also strange he could not remember who asked him to produce the first brief version when asked?

When interviewed he looks so innocent but he deliberately produced a false statement, what else has he told porkies about?

What deceit?

[Adam]

It is interesting. Every few months a new couple of supporters will replace a couple who stop posting.

Always protesting Bamber's innocence from different angles.

Rob currently saying Bamber couldn't cycle in the dark. Snow66! saying Bamber would knock things over & wake everyone.

[Jane]

They did not think the deceit would be discovered 36 years down the line you mean Jane?

Sorry but hindsight not needed, West had his arm twisted to produce a dodgy statement in my view anyway, though at trial he stuck to his 3.36 time as in his log. Also strange he could not remember who asked him to produce the first brief version when asked?

When interviewed he looks so innocent but he deliberately produced a false statement, what else has he told porkies about?

Sorry Rob. I'd believed you to be more open-minded, but I now feel you to be entrenched in conspiracy. For the life of me I can't think why, other than to add to a growing list of those who are claimed, for varying reasons, but unbeknown to each other, to have it in for JB. Still, I guess it's for you to prove all you've accused him of to be so.

[Rob_]

Sorry Rob. I'd believed you to be more open-minded, but I now feel you to be entrenched in conspiracy. For the life of me I can't think why, other than to add to a growing list of those who are claimed, for varying reasons, but unbeknown to each other, to have it in for JB. Still, I guess it's for you to prove all you've accused him of to be so.

Well I hope I have not become entrenched Jane, I try hard to look at the evidence and say it as I see it no matter who it helps. Wests two statements to me take the biscuit, to me there is no excuse I think it is you who is entrenched if you read Wests two statements and see nothing wrong?

[Roch]

Sorry Rob. I'd believed you to be more open-minded, but I now feel you to be entrenched in conspiracy. For the life of me I can't think why, other than to add to a growing list of those who are claimed, for varying reasons, but unbeknown to each other, to have it in for JB. Still, I guess it's for you to prove all you've accused him of to be so.

The police fit people up Jane. Since police forces began, how many people do you think have been fit up for a crime they didn't commit?. And of those cases, how many involve more than one person, in collusion?  In every such case, a conspiracy occurred. 

[ILB]

The police fit people up Jane. Since police forces began, how many people do you think have been fit up for a crime they didn't commit?. And of those cases, how many involve more than one person, in collusion?  In every such case, a conspiracy occurred.

Having witnessed police corruption first hand in my own life. I would not be amazed it wasn't the case in Bambers case. Especially 1980s

You only have to reference the MacPherson report

[Rob_]

The police fit people up Jane. Since police forces began, how many people do you think have been fit up for a crime they didn't commit?. And of those cases, how many involve more than one person, in collusion?  In every such case, a conspiracy occurred.

Cases like this are easy to find Roch:

Robert Brown was realeased in 2002 at the age of 45 after serving 25 years for the murder of 51-year-old Annie Walsh – a woman he maintains he never met.

Brown – who described his time behind bars as ‘an abyss of hell’ – protested his innocence from prison throughout his sentence.

He was released by the court of appeal after evidence of police corruption, bullying and non-disclosure of vital evidence came to light.

The court heard Greater Manchester Police withheld an important piece of forensic material from his defence team.

[Roch]

Cases like this are easy to find Roch:

Robert Brown was realeased in 2002 at the age of 45 after serving 25 years for the murder of 51-year-old Annie Walsh – a woman he maintains he never met.

Brown – who described his time behind bars as ‘an abyss of hell’ – protested his innocence from prison throughout his sentence.

He was released by the court of appeal after evidence of police corruption, bullying and non-disclosure of vital evidence came to light.

The court heard Greater Manchester Police withheld an important piece of forensic material from his defence team.

Exactly. So nowhere near beyond the realms of fantasy.

[David1819]

Having witnessed police corruption first hand in my own life. I would not be amazed it wasn't the case in Bambers case. Especially 1980s

You only have to reference the MacPherson report

The only evidence of police wrongdoing in this case is the sanitization of Julie Mugford as a witness.

You can read all about that here.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9316.msg436121.html#msg436121

[Jane]

The police fit people up Jane. Since police forces began, how many people do you think have been fit up for a crime they didn't commit?. And of those cases, how many involve more than one person, in collusion?  In every such case, a conspiracy occurred.

"The police fit people up", ergo, JB was fitted, eh? And it all began because a serving policeman made a discrepancy in the timing of a call, after which, to cover such, it was decided to "do one" on JB, despite having a ready made and inarguable culprit laid out for them, complete with murder weapon!!