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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #105 on: October 20, 2024, 12:50:PM »
Huh? By the time the photo's were taken, the blood on her neck would be dry. She's laying on her back, there is no heart beat to pump out fresh blood and blood that had come from those wounds, trailed down her neck. The blood would have been dry by the time the CS pictures were taken.

Yes the soc image shows SC lying completely flat but there's some evidence that this position wasn't the position she was found in.  EG A/PS Woodcock:

"I was aware that Sheila Bamber was lying flat on her back with her head slightly raised as it was against a bedside locker".

Ironically this chimes with the prosecution case at the 2002 appeal.  Testimony form Martyn Ismail:

518. To decide whether we considered that the interests of justice required that we heard Mr Ismail's evidence, we first had regard to the evidence that it was said that he could give. From the blood staining he concluded that following the second and fatal shot Sheila Caffell was lying almost flat on her back with her head propped against a bedside cabinet.

It would seem SC's found position was with her head propped up against the bedside cabinet and that at some stage she was pulled by her feet thus causing her head to fall flat to the floor and dislodging blood that had pooled in the back of her throat.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #106 on: October 20, 2024, 12:53:PM »
What? Is CC a barefoot runner?

I am a runner but not of the barefoot variety.  I wear Brooks  8)
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #107 on: October 20, 2024, 12:54:PM »
I am a runner but not of the barefoot variety.  I wear Brooks  8)

I had a pair of Brooks for years. Apparently they make shoes for people with disabilities.

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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #108 on: October 20, 2024, 01:19:PM »
I had a pair of Brooks for years. Apparently they make shoes for people with disabilities.

I wasn't aware of that.  They were recommended based on a gait analysis.  Very comfortable and supportive. Really pleased with them. 

Are you a runner?
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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« Reply #109 on: October 20, 2024, 01:28:PM »
I wasn't aware of that.  They were recommended based on a gait analysis.  Very comfortable and supportive. Really pleased with them. 

Are you a runner?

I've been a jogger in my past. Mainly off-road. I never liked pavement pounding. I couldn't run down the street these days.

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« Reply #110 on: October 20, 2024, 01:36:PM »
I've been a jogger in my past. Mainly off-road. I never liked pavement pounding. I couldn't run down the street these days.

I started cross country at school and have been running ever since but mainly pavement pounding now. 

Any particular reason?
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #111 on: October 20, 2024, 02:02:PM »
I started cross country at school and have been running ever since but mainly pavement pounding now. 

Any particular reason?

Very much out of shape. I've got a WaterRower and my intention is to use that instead of jogging.. when I eventually get round to it.

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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #112 on: October 20, 2024, 02:03:PM »
I started cross country at school and have been running ever since but mainly pavement pounding now. 

Any particular reason?

I hope you get a lot out of your running. Fair play to you for sticking with it.

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« Reply #113 on: October 20, 2024, 02:25:PM »
Very much out of shape. I've got a WaterRower and my intention is to use that instead of jogging.. when I eventually get round to it.

I think you have to find something you enjoy! 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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« Reply #114 on: October 20, 2024, 02:30:PM »
I hope you get a lot out of your running. Fair play to you for sticking with it.

3 or 4 times a week.  Usually about half with a club and half solo. Most of the time I really enjoy it.  Sometimes if I'm tired, weather is bad or a bit hungover I have to push myself. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #115 on: October 20, 2024, 02:45:PM »
3 or 4 times a week.  Usually about half with a club and half solo. Most of the time I really enjoy it.  Sometimes if I'm tired, weather is bad or a bit hungover I have to push myself.

I used to run in winter. And when the weather was foul, at the end of my run I felt like I had beat the elements. Very satisfying.

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« Reply #116 on: October 20, 2024, 03:36:PM »
I used to run in winter. And when the weather was foul, at the end of my run I felt like I had beat the elements. Very satisfying.

Yep  8)

When I run with the group I always want to be #1 so push myself much harder and get the 'runners high'  8)
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #117 on: October 20, 2024, 03:38:PM »
Have you recovered from the loss of your dog?  Lola?
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #118 on: October 20, 2024, 04:27:PM »
Nope, I'm a common or garden moggie from Cheshire, not a wealthy ickle cutie from Cambridge. It'll sink in eventually!

Hmmm this is afterall the person who believes AE wrung out SC's, left to soak, menstrual stained knickers into the silencer thus contaminating it!
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #119 on: October 20, 2024, 04:34:PM »
I am a runner but not of the barefoot variety.  I wear Brooks  8)

Therefore CC is not me (as someone suggested)