Author Topic: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.  (Read 5231 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Roch

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17586
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #90 on: October 19, 2024, 02:21:PM »
Definitely, and even worse that that, even people like Colin Caffell and Brett Collins to give a few examples, neither of whom were in any sense "participants" or had anything to gain from Jeremy being convicted are also called liars.

Vanezis seems to have done well out of it.

Offline ILB

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13151
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #91 on: October 19, 2024, 02:24:PM »
I thought you didn't have time for a supporter on a windup?

Is Dan CC?
If yesterday you hated me. Then today you can not stop the love that binds from me to you. And you to me

Offline ILB

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13151
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #92 on: October 19, 2024, 02:47:PM »
I thought you didn't have time for a supporter on a windup?

Dave, I don't know what the crack is with multiple account stuff and why somebody would do it to be perfectly honest. I'm an old man.
If yesterday you hated me. Then today you can not stop the love that binds from me to you. And you to me

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13781
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #93 on: October 19, 2024, 03:13:PM »
Is Dan CC?

No, Curiosity is CC.

Online snow66!

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5940
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #94 on: October 19, 2024, 03:38:PM »
Dave, I don't know what the crack is with multiple account stuff and why somebody would do it to be perfectly honest. I'm an old man.
Dont be silly ILB!
56 is the new 36 !!

Offline ILB

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13151
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #95 on: October 19, 2024, 04:18:PM »
Dont be silly ILB!
56 is the new 36 !!

Only in waistline and beyond  ;D
If yesterday you hated me. Then today you can not stop the love that binds from me to you. And you to me

Offline BarefootDanC

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 973
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #96 on: October 19, 2024, 04:35:PM »
Is Dan CC?

What? Is CC a barefoot runner?

Offline Curiosity

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 557
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #97 on: October 19, 2024, 04:55:PM »
No, Curiosity is CC.
Nope, I'm a common or garden moggie from Cheshire, not a wealthy ickle cutie from Cambridge. It'll sink in eventually!
I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and furballs.

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13781
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #98 on: October 19, 2024, 07:02:PM »
Nope, I'm a common or garden moggie from Cheshire, not a wealthy ickle cutie from Cambridge. It'll sink in eventually!

You are most certainly not a wealthy ickle cutie.  :))

Offline Zoso

  • Administrator
  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2440
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #99 on: October 19, 2024, 08:37:PM »
I do not believe either of them doctored photographs.  There was a witness statement which was altered, which I called out as soon as it was posted.  Part of the problem with the photographs is that until late 2011 the defence only had the trial photograph albums, which were of course prints rather than negatives. As a result every copy tended to be distorted in terms of contrast/colour intensity etc.  I think proper allowance should be made for that before allegations of doctoring are made.

The brighter red photograph of Sheila's neck was used to given the impression that Sheila was still bleeding when the picture was taken. That would be impossible because Craig pronounced death hours before and also mentions the dried cracked blood around her mouth. That was omitted from the photo when it appeared in the newspaper - for obvious reasons.

Offline Roch

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17586
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #100 on: October 19, 2024, 08:56:PM »
The brighter red photograph of Sheila's neck was used to given the impression that Sheila was still bleeding when the picture was taken. That would be impossible because Craig pronounced death hours before and also mentions the dried cracked blood around her mouth. That was omitted from the photo when it appeared in the newspaper - for obvious reasons.

There is both wet and dried blood in her crime scene image.

Offline Jane

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 33775
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #101 on: October 19, 2024, 09:06:PM »
There is both wet and dried blood in her crime scene image.


Would not the dried blood give a better indication of TOD, than wet? Recently deceased bodies don't bleed dry blood.

Offline Roch

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17586
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #102 on: October 19, 2024, 09:10:PM »

Would not the dried blood give a better indication of TOD, than wet? Recently deceased bodies don't bleed dry blood.

Possibly Jane. I can't really work it out. The defence are arguing that Sheila killed herself with the first shot. That means the order of shots is reversed.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2024, 09:11:PM by Roch »

Online snow66!

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5940
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #103 on: October 19, 2024, 11:15:PM »
Only in waistline and beyond  ;D
Ha ha, I'm actually still a 36 waist ILB!

Offline Zoso

  • Administrator
  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2440
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #104 on: October 20, 2024, 01:20:AM »
There is both wet and dried blood in her crime scene image.

Huh? By the time the photo's were taken, the blood on her neck would be dry. She's laying on her back, there is no heart beat to pump out fresh blood and blood that had come from those wounds, trailed down her neck. The blood would have been dry by the time the CS pictures were taken.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2024, 01:23:AM by Zoso »