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« Reply #165 on: March 13, 2022, 03:08:PM »
Hi Jane,i thought everyone liked Some mothers do ave em ,the stunts alone made the show memorable.As for Sorry ,i rarely watched that,it was by no means a classic.What do you mean by real life comedy Jane,something like Billy Connollys observations or actual footage like youve been framed.Or maybe  jusy observing others your self ?


I find Billy Connelly hilarious. I love his brilliant observations, as I do others who make no claims of being comedians, ie Pam Eyres. I don't like anything which involves others making fools of the unknowing/unaware. They/we are more than capable of doing that without outside contributions!!! There's little better than people watching, is there?

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« Reply #166 on: March 13, 2022, 03:24:PM »

I find Billy Connelly hilarious. I love his brilliant observations, as I do others who make no claims of being comedians, ie Pam Eyres. I don't like anything which involves others making fools of the unknowing/unaware. They/we are more than capable of doing that without outside contributions!!! There's little better than people watching, is there?
Yes i agree Billy Connolly can have the tears rolling down your face at times,have you watched him tell the story of the worker at the ship yards who had a broken arse.? As for Pam Ayres,she is a very clever and amusing poet who makes you smile rather than laugh out loud.But as i say,i like the silly slapstick stuff too.Oh well we are all different Jane.

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« Reply #167 on: March 13, 2022, 03:32:PM »
The late Jeanne Robertson made me laugh. Her comedy was real life situations which was hilarious.

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« Reply #168 on: March 13, 2022, 03:43:PM »
The late Jeanne Robertson made me laugh. Her comedy was real life situations which was hilarious.


There was a wonderful raconteuse whose name escapes me. She used to tell tongue in cheek stories about her days in boarding school. She was around in the late 50s/60s.

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« Reply #169 on: March 13, 2022, 04:02:PM »

There was a wonderful raconteuse whose name escapes me. She used to tell tongue in cheek stories about her days in boarding school. She was around in the late 50s/60s.
Joyce Grenfell?

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« Reply #170 on: March 13, 2022, 04:03:PM »
The late Jeanne Robertson made me laugh. Her comedy was real life situations which was hilarious.
Thats a new name to me Lookout,i will have to look her up.

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« Reply #172 on: March 13, 2022, 07:46:PM »

There is an adjunct to the flight/fight states. It's FREEZE. A state in which we find ourselves totally incapable of movement. Usually bought about, as with fight/flight, by shock and/or fear.

I agree an animal can either fight / flight or freeze. So an animal who encounters say a Lion which is vastly more powerful and faster may freeze if fighting or fleeing is not a option.

In Sheila's case she may have frozen the minute she caught sight of June, but would she? with her children in the house I think most mothers instinct would have been to flee to their children?

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« Reply #173 on: March 13, 2022, 08:18:PM »
I agree an animal can either fight / flight or freeze. So an animal who encounters say a Lion which is vastly more powerful and faster may freeze if fighting or fleeing is not a option.

In Sheila's case she may have frozen the minute she caught sight of June, but would she? with her children in the house I think most mothers instinct would have been to flee to their children?
Hi Rob how are you tonight.This is the official police scenario sent to the DPP in Nov 1985.It can be found on page 415 of Carol Ann Lees book.----- While father and son were fighting in the kitchen,June had managed to force herself up from the bed.The commotion had also woken Sheila,who crossed the landing to her parents bedroom,drowsy and confused.At the sight of her mother bleeding profusely as she steadied herself on the edge of the bed,Sheila rushed to the other side of the room,where the door to the box room was the quickest route to the twins,June staggered round the bed after her,but before she could reach Sheila,Jeremy returned with the gun.Sheila froze,June started towards her son,who fired three more shots into her neck,head,and finally between her eyes.June hit her shoulder against the door as she slumped to the floor.Jeremy then forced Sheila down beside the bed and shot her once in the throat.-----

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« Reply #174 on: March 13, 2022, 08:24:PM »
Hi Rob how are you tonight.This is the official police scenario sent to the DPP in Nov 1985.It can be found on page 415 of Carol Ann Lees book.----- While father and son were fighting in the kitchen,June had managed to force herself up from the bed.The commotion had also woken Sheila,who crossed the landing to her parents bedroom,drowsy and confused.At the sight of her mother bleeding profusely as she steadied herself on the edge of the bed,Sheila rushed to the other side of the room,where the door to the box room was the quickest route to the twins,June staggered round the bed after her,but before she could reach Sheila,Jeremy returned with the gun.Sheila froze,June started towards her son,who fired three more shots into her neck,head,and finally between her eyes.June hit her shoulder against the door as she slumped to the floor.Jeremy then forced Sheila down beside the bed and shot her once in the throat.-----
WHERE IS THE BLOOD? I think you should write to CAL and ask her why there is not a pooling of blood around June's head.

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« Reply #175 on: March 13, 2022, 08:29:PM »
Hi Rob how are you tonight.This is the official police scenario sent to the DPP in Nov 1985.It can be found on page 415 of Carol Ann Lees book.----- While father and son were fighting in the kitchen,June had managed to force herself up from the bed.The commotion had also woken Sheila,who crossed the landing to her parents bedroom,drowsy and confused.At the sight of her mother bleeding profusely as she steadied herself on the edge of the bed,Sheila rushed to the other side of the room,where the door to the box room was the quickest route to the twins,June staggered round the bed after her,but before she could reach Sheila,Jeremy returned with the gun.Sheila froze,June started towards her son,who fired three more shots into her neck,head,and finally between her eyes.June hit her shoulder against the door as she slumped to the floor.Jeremy then forced Sheila down beside the bed and shot her once in the throat.-----


Hi Snow I am ok thanks hope you are too.

A person freezes because instinctively they feel its their best course of action, but in this situation Nevil shot, June shot it will soon be her turn I don't think she would freeze or if she did it would only be for a few seconds then she would try to flee.

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« Reply #176 on: March 13, 2022, 08:33:PM »
WHERE IS THE BLOOD? I think you should write to CAL and ask her why there is not a pooling of blood around June's head.
Yes,you mentioned that fact to me before Bubo.It definatelly needs answering in my opinion.

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« Reply #177 on: March 13, 2022, 08:40:PM »

Hi Snow I am ok thanks hope you are too.

A person freezes because instinctively they feel its their best course of action, but in this situation Nevil shot, June shot it will soon be her turn I don't think she would freeze or if she did it would only be for a few seconds then she would try to flee.
And if she rushed to the box room door,why would she bother to stop and turn round when JB entered the room,she would keep moving.Maybe JB shouted FREEZE! ,and she did,literally.Ha ha!

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« Reply #178 on: March 13, 2022, 08:43:PM »
And if she rushed to the box room door,why would she bother to stop and turn round when JB entered the room,she would keep moving.Maybe JB shouted FREEZE! ,and she did,literally.Ha ha!

As I have said if it was JB then this aspect of the case is a mystery to me? as you know I think it's a MOJ.

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Re: Sheilas Two Shots
« Reply #179 on: March 13, 2022, 10:44:PM »
As I have said if it was JB then this aspect of the case is a mystery to me? as you know I think it's a MOJ.
Of course this part of the case is a mystery Rob,take a look at my JB scenario,i had Sheila being blind folded by JB and told she was going to a party,for heavens sake.As you know,a detailed scenario was not needed to convict JB,only proof that Sheila could not have murdered her parents and the twins.