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« Reply #540 on: May 11, 2022, 08:53:AM »
Wouldn't you be driven to distraction with a dog yapping at your feet while killing everyone ? So why wasn't Crispy put out of his misery first ? I understand that JB was more than capable---being a " psychopath " ?

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« Reply #541 on: May 11, 2022, 09:36:AM »
Wouldn't you be driven to distraction with a dog yapping at your feet while killing everyone ? So why wasn't Crispy put out of his misery first ? I understand that JB was more than capable---being a " psychopath " ?


Nothing to do with being a psychopath. Most farmers I know don't have finer feelings for dogs, unless they happen to be gun dogs, and would have no qualms about dispatching them. JB didn't want it to look as if it was he who was responsible so he did what he thought Sheila would have done -or rather, not done- in order to make it appear to have been her work. Under other circumstances, I doubt he'd have turned a hair. As with Bruce.

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« Reply #542 on: May 11, 2022, 12:32:PM »
The other guard dog outside, Bamber arranged for it to be re homed.

It was Crispy who Bamber didn't like.
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« Reply #543 on: May 11, 2022, 02:10:PM »

Nothing to do with being a psychopath. Most farmers I know don't have finer feelings for dogs, unless they happen to be gun dogs, and would have no qualms about dispatching them. JB didn't want it to look as if it was he who was responsible so he did what he thought Sheila would have done -or rather, not done- in order to make it appear to have been her work. Under other circumstances, I doubt he'd have turned a hair. As with Bruce.





Psychopath is what the general public would describe JB as being, plus a few from the red forum in the past. ?
Looking at Sheila's overall illness, the dog/s hadn't appeared to have been any threat such as the humans around her had been.

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« Reply #544 on: May 11, 2022, 03:55:PM »
CAL says Bamber ordered Crispy to be put down.

She says the CT claimed the vet recommended it. She then asked them to put the vets written report online (which she has seen). The CT refused.

Why would a vet recommend a healthy dog is put down?
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« Reply #545 on: May 11, 2022, 04:05:PM »
Obviously the big news of the day is the picture of Sheila online was doctored by the CT. To try to entice potential gullible supporters.

The real picture shows dry, cracked blood on her neck.

There have always been suggestions the picture was doctored. Now it is official.

Guess Sheila didn't dial 999 at 6.10am after all.
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« Reply #546 on: May 12, 2022, 09:52:AM »
CAL says Bamber ordered Crispy to be put down.

She says the CT claimed the vet recommended it. She then asked them to put the vets written report online (which she has seen). The CT refused.

Why would a vet recommend a healthy dog is put down?





But it wasn't a healthy dog---and you know it !!

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« Reply #547 on: May 12, 2022, 10:45:PM »
We don't know where Bamber left the rifle during his reconnaisance a few hours earlier.

He would have left it in place that benefits him.
Hi Adam.The only place that would have benefited him would be in the shower room,ready to be retrieved ad soon as he entered.But he would have needed to sneak it through unseen and hide it well,else Nevill would notice it when he went for his shower.Even then he would still encounter Crispy when he came out of the shower room.So no matter where he left the rifle,it would not be a big advantage.

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« Reply #548 on: May 12, 2022, 11:59:PM »




But it wasn't a healthy dog---and you know it !!

Source please.

Your last post on Crispy says -

'Wouldn't you be driven to distraction with a dog yapping at your feet while killing everyone'.

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Seems a pretty healthy dog to me. Thought vets were supposed to try to cure sick pets.
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« Reply #549 on: May 13, 2022, 12:02:AM »
Hi Adam.The only place that would have benefited him would be in the shower room,ready to be retrieved ad soon as he entered.But he would have needed to sneak it through unseen and hide it well,else Nevill would notice it when he went for his shower.Even then he would still encounter Crispy when he came out of the shower room.So no matter where he left the rifle,it would not be a big advantage.

Bamber could put the rifle wherever he wanted. Out of sight. He was collecting it only a few hours later.

Encounter Crispy? I am sure Bamber was worried about that!
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« Reply #550 on: May 13, 2022, 06:22:AM »
A policeman who had never seen Crispy before,  picked him up & put him in a bedroom cupboard.

Bamber had the option of putting Crispy somewhere quiet upon arrival. If he woke & barked.

To bother doing this, Bamber would need to believe Crispy's kitchen bark would travel upstairs & through thick walls. Waking people within a few seconds before he entered the bedroom. All impossible.
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« Reply #551 on: May 13, 2022, 10:03:AM »
Source please.

Your last post on Crispy says -

'Wouldn't you be driven to distraction with a dog yapping at your feet while killing everyone'.

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Seems a pretty healthy dog to me. Thought vets were supposed to try to cure sick pets.






From past reports the dog was old anyway and the trauma of the night would have taken its toll.


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« Reply #553 on: June 29, 2022, 11:27:AM »
Many thanks for that Bill. Not the first time that a pathologist had been "working" with the police-----Ian Tomlinson's death for instance , which I thought was horrendous enough ?

The dismissal of acknowledging that these injuries on all 3 adults existed should have been enough to question and determine how such injuries would come about and with what sort of a weapon/implement.

Bill, I've been called all sorts of things over the years and withstood insults galore----but I'm still here and as determined as ever to see this MOJ through. I'm sure that you're the same as many people don't matter to me. I just sit back and know that one day I'll have the last laugh, as will yourself.