Likely Profile of The Perp

[killingeve]

When you have characters like the above lurking about I've no idea why the defence at trial, Sandra Lean and Corrine Mitchell refer to others who seem about as unlikely to have committed the murder as Luke Mitchell does imo. 

[killingeve]

Did the police eliminate the following individuals who were connected to the area and had previous for violent offending?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-21600164

https://www.scotsman.com/news/rape-kit-man-begins-life-sentence-sex-attack-2470061

They seem far more likely suspects than Luke Mitchell and others whose names were thrown in the ring eg John Ferris. 

However as far as the pathologist was concerned there was no evidence of sexual assault and the above individuals were convicted of sexual assaults. 

Maybe Jodie's killer derived gratification, sexual or otherwise, from the attack as it was or was disturbed and prevented from his initial plan by Jodie putting up a defence, or the likes of Stephen Kelly cycling past, or the 'moped boys' hanging around. 

[Roch]

For those of Luke's generation it was Marilyn Manson

Perhaps for your generation, it was 'Marilyn' (80's).

https://youtu.be/CfH2pCanQOw

[killingeve]

Perhaps for your generation, it was 'Marylin' (80's).

https://youtu.be/CfH2pCanQOw

I can only vaguely remember. 

It was more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqrAPOZxgzU

which was banned from the BBC   

[Roch]

I can only vaguely remember. 

It was more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqrAPOZxgzU

which was banned from the BBC 

I think that's more ngb's era.

[ngb1066]

I think that's more ngb's era.

I certainly remember it!

[lilly15]

I can only vaguely remember. 

It was more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqrAPOZxgzU

which was banned from the BBC 

Great tune 💥

[Bubo bubo]

Great tune 💥

Be careful CC may be snapping at your heels for going off topic.

I feel very sad about the LM & JJ case. Having reviewed the case in some detail I can see how the conviction on weak circumstantial evidence was obtained especially with the police taking a somewhat blinkered view of the case and having no other strong suspects from the local area. It took them 10 months to charge him.

I do not know what would be required for the police to reopen the case and whether there is a legal route to force it. They will not reopen the case because they believe they have the culprit.

Unless the true culprit confesses or new DNA evidence linking the culprit to the crime is forthcoming Luke is stuck.

Naming potential suspects would require strong evidence pointing to them such as identification or some other record of them being in reasonable proximity to the area around that time.

You cannot go round naming suspects without very good reason.

One idea I had was to compare the crime scene and post-mortems of JJ and one of the suspects other victims. It might be possible for two independent pathologists to say that there were direct indicators to say both were conducted by the same hand.

[David1819]

The perpetrator if very clever could have had a change of clothes in a rucksack. Alternatively was wearing two sets of clothes removing and destroying the outer blood stained ones. They may have been renting and staying in a B&B or travelled to the area in a car. Placed the bloodstained clothes in the boot for later destruction. They could have been staying anywhere if they had a car.

Well done Bubo Bubo.

The person who Jodi planned to meet shortly before her death was burning stuff in his back garden not long after she was killed. This person has denied having the fire (and later admitted to it) and is missing the green jacket he was seen wearing when he was spotted with Jodi near the murder scene. Maybe you want to look into this suspect?

[Bubo bubo]

Well done Bubo Bubo.

The person who Jodi planned to meet shortly before her death was burning stuff in his back garden not long after she was killed. This person has denied having the fire (and later admitted to it) and is missing the green jacket he was seen wearing when he was spotted with Jodi near the murder scene. Maybe you want to look into this suspect?

The remains of the fire in the wood burner were examined by the police. They found no evidence. And you can bet your bottom dollar it would have featured in the trial if they had.

[killingeve]

I think that's more ngb's era.

I had just entered my teens.  My cousin, a few years older, had the album 'Never Mind The Bollocks' and taped it for me 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGCYNhaZ728

The fact Luke's liking for Marilyn Manson was used against him at trial I would say is analagous to the Taiban banning all music on the basic it was considered "sinful" except Luke was not a resident in Afghanistan but Scotland.  I wonder what Nicola Sturgeon has got to say about this. 

[lilly15]

Be careful CC may be snapping at your heels for going off topic.

I feel very sad about the LM & JJ case. Having reviewed the case in some detail I can see how the conviction on weak circumstantial evidence was obtained especially with the police taking a somewhat blinkered view of the case and having no other strong suspects from the local area. It took them 10 months to charge him.

I do not know what would be required for the police to reopen the case and whether there is a legal route to force it. They will not reopen the case because they believe they have the culprit.

Unless the true culprit confesses or new DNA evidence linking the culprit to the crime is forthcoming Luke is stuck.

Naming potential suspects would require strong evidence pointing to them such as identification or some other record of them being in reasonable proximity to the area around that time.

You cannot go round naming suspects without very good reason.

One idea I had was to compare the crime scene and post-mortems of JJ and one of the suspects other victims. It might be possible for two independent pathologists to say that there were direct indicators to say both were conducted by the same hand.

Ok I will behave 😊

Seriously for Luke I wish someone somewhere had some answers that could help his case.

Like you say when original evidence is so flimsy and weak there is nothing much to fight back against.

I've seen many comments on various cases where people point out the lack of success at appeal etc. It's no indication of guilt just the lack of evidence

Definitely not sensible to put anyone's name into the frame.
I only know of one case where this has happened  for many years and continued without any comeback legally.

[David1819]

The remains of the fire in the wood burner were examined by the police. They found no evidence. And you can bet your bottom dollar it would have featured in the trial if they had.

Good news! The wood burner was not taken for examination until 5 days after the murder. Plenty of time to empty the remnants.

The suspect and his mother have never explained what they were burning and the jacket he admits wearing that day (and seen wearing) is missing.

You are still on a hot lead.

[Bubo bubo]

Good news! The wood burner was not taken for examination until 5 days after the murder. Plenty of time to empty the remnants.

The suspect and his mother have never explained what they were burning and the jacket he admits wearing that day (and seen wearing) is missing.

You are still on a hot lead.

You do not know the truth neither do I. You are just suggesting something that cannot be proved one way or the other. I wish to believe Luke and his mum. Show me a picture of the Jacket. No body has testified about a particular jacket that is missing and  have produced a picture of it and asked to see it..

[killingeve]

Well done Bubo Bubo.

The person who Jodi planned to meet shortly before her death was burning stuff in his back garden not long after she was killed. This person has denied having the fire (and later admitted to it) and is missing the green jacket he was seen wearing when he was spotted with Jodi near the murder scene. Maybe you want to look into this suspect?

The exchange of text messages between Jodie and Luke have never been available.  Therefore we do not know exactly what they agreed.  School age teens often just have loose arrangements about meeting up in some place youths tend to congreate in.  According to Mrs Jones Jodie said:

The deceased left her house at about 1650, informing her mother that she was going to meet the appellant and would be "mucking about up here".

What evidence exists that the Mitchells burned any clothes on the 30th June or thereafter?

What evidence exists that Luke wore the coat described by Andrina Bryson on 30th June?