If it wisnae him, who was it? Initial Reaction After Reading Case Summaries

[killingeve]

Why did Jodie's mother not go out to look for her? 

[nugnug]

Why did Jodie's mother not go out to look for her?

well tobe fair there were 3 other people looking for her.

im more suprised they went to the woods to look for her whydid they think she would be in the woods

what would a14 year ol be doing hanging around in wood in the dark on her own

[Bubo bubo]

Why did Jodie's mother not go out to look for her?

Can I suggest someone needed to be at home to man the phone or be there if she showed up or to receive/field calls relating to her disappearance from emergency services. May be she was checking local hospitals etc..

[Bubo bubo]

Cyclist Leonard Kelly cycled by the area Jodie was found circa 5pm and heard a "strangling" sound. 

Is Leonard Kelly any relation to Steven Kelly - Jodi's sister's boyfriend?

I do believe they were related. This is a piece of confection. What can we say or agree constitutes a 'Strangling' sound. It could have been an animal small deer, hedgehog, badger or a bird. The Covid family have a range of calls. Listen to hedgehog on line. The sound could be distorted by the surroundings, trees, bushes , the wall. Additionally he was moving and not standing looking for the source. I have often been tricked by strange sounds. Once I heard a noise I felt strange and could not identify. In the end it turned out to be two tree branches rubbing together in the breeze.

All this does is bolster/reinforce a TOD of around 5pm.

[killingeve]

Can I suggest someone needed to be at home to man the phone or be there if she showed up or to receive/field calls relating to her disappearance from emergency services. May be she was checking local hospitals etc..

Yes good points.  I thought perhaps she may have been working.  Did the grandmother live locally?

[killingeve]

well tobe fair there were 3 other people looking for her.

im more suprised they went to the woods to look for her whydid they think she would be in the woods

what would a14 year ol be doing hanging around in wood in the dark on her own

Well my understanding is that they took the route they thought Jodie took. 

[killingeve]

I do believe they were related. This is a piece of confection. What can we say or agree constitutes a 'Strangling' sound. It could have been an animal small deer, hedgehog, badger or a bird. The Covid family have a range of calls. Listen to hedgehog on line. The sound could be distorted by the surroundings, trees, bushes , the wall. Additionally he was moving and not standing looking for the source. I have often been tricked by strange sounds. Once I heard a noise I felt strange and could not identify. In the end it turned out to be two tree branches rubbing together in the breeze.

All this does is bolster/reinforce a TOD of around 5pm.

Were?

Yes he could have been mistaken about the sound.

Did Steven Kelly and Janine Jones go on to marry? 

Is their an ordnance survey map of the area showing the relevant sites eg the homes of Jodie and Luke, footpath with V etc?

Did the police take footprints/cycle tyre treads?

What's happening with the case at the moment?

Thanks. 

[nugnug]

Well my understanding is that they took the route they thought Jodie took.

but she had taken that route 5 hours earlyer what were the chances of her being anywhere near it 5 hours later

[killingeve]

but she had taken that route 5 hours earlyer what were the chances of her being anywhere near it 5 hours later

Well she was there 5 hours later but sadly murdered.

If you were looking for someone in such circumstances where would you start?  I would start from her home and then follow the intended route and that's what they did.  Where else would you expect them to start looking?  No doubt her mother was ringing round all her known associates. 

[nugnug]

Well she was there 5 hours later but sadly murdered.

If you were looking for someone in such circumstances where would you start?  I would start from her home and then follow the intended route and that's what they did.  Where else would you expect them to start looking?  No doubt her mother was ringing round all her known associates.

i would start by phoning her friends and asking if they had seen her somthing jodis mum never seemed to think to do

[Bubo bubo]

1 Were?

2 Yes he could have been mistaken about the sound.

3 Did Steven Kelly and Janine Jones go on to marry? 

4 Is their an ordnance survey map of the area showing the relevant sites eg the homes of Jodie and Luke, footpath with V etc?

5 Did the police take footprints/cycle tyre treads?

6 What's happening with the case at the moment?

Thanks.

1 If they are both still alive they are related

2 Glad you agree

3 I do not know

4 You can google the area using google maps. Some of the video's show a map which you could view on pause.

5 I do not know.

6 I haven't the foggiest. Why would I? All I know is that a new legal team has been engaged according to reports so guess there may be something taking shape. What this might be after all this time is difficult to imagine.

[Bubo bubo]

This may be of interest as it shows how things have gained momentum since the 'Murder in a small town' programme aired.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/6919979/crime-expert-sandra-lean-fund-effort-free-luke-mitchell/

[nugnug]

ie notied how the press ha hanged there tune on this ase.

[killingeve]

Anyone know why Jodie was grounded prior to 30th June?

It was acknowledged at trial by all concerned Luke and Jodie were having a sexual relationship.  Anyone know if she was taking the contraceptive pill?  If not what sort of precautions were being used?

Whose phone did Luke use to send the text messages to Jodie on 30th June?  Did the police examine his phone?  Where is this phone now?  I assume the phone was too old for cell site analysis to be relevant?

[nugnug]

Anyone know why Jodie was grounded prior to 30th June?

It was acknowledged at trial by all concerned Luke and Jodie were having a sexual relationship.  Anyone know if she was taking the contraceptive pill?  If not what sort of precautions were being used?

Whose phone did Luke use to send the text messages to Jodie on 30th June?  Did the police examine his phone?  Where is this phone now?  I assume the phone was too old for cell site analysis to be relevant?

they were using contreption but i think its luke using a condom

she was grounded for smoking  weed.


luke ident tet her she texted him on her mumss phone.