Author Topic: If it wisnae him, who was it? Initial Reaction After Reading Case Summaries  (Read 14947 times)

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Offline killingeve

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There is not a wealth of material in this case. It does not have the depth of information and documentation that exists in the Bamber case. The information that we have is about all there is. At face value you have to accept the Crown's case because there is no alternative perpetrator who has not been fully checked out. The only alternative to my mind is some deranged individual who planned and executed the crime. You should search and read 'Stocky man' threads on this forum.

Do you mean not as much material was collected in the first instance or that we only have access to a limited amount?  I am assuming Dr Lean had more info for her book?  I haven't read the book btw. 

Why does anyone have to accept the Crown's case because an alternative isn't currently known about?

The authorities had Colin Stagg marked for the murder of Rachel Nickell but we now know it was actually Robert Napper.  Why can't a Robert Napper type be responsible here and just slipped under the radar as Napper did? 

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Do you mean not as much material was collected in the first instance or that we only have access to a limited amount?  I am assuming Dr Lean had more info for her book?  I haven't read the book btw. 

Why does anyone have to accept the Crown's case because an alternative isn't currently known about?

The authorities had Colin Stagg marked for the murder of Rachel Nickell but we now know it was actually Robert Napper.  Why can't a Robert Napper type be responsible here and just slipped under the radar as Napper did?

Whenever you post, I can hear someone somewhere sucking eggs....

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Whenever you post, I can hear someone somewhere sucking eggs....

Thought you had me on ignore  ::)

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Thought you had me on ignore  ::)

I need to practice at sucking eggs.  That's why I come on the Forum and read some of your posts, so I can learn how to suck eggs.

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I need to practice at sucking eggs.  That's why I come on the Forum and read some of your posts, so I can learn how to suck eggs.

What is it with you and sucking?  Sucking **** and now sucking eggs  :-\

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What is it with you and sucking?  Sucking **** and now sucking eggs  :-\

Well you're the one who keeps bringing up the other subject, not me.

I'm just expressing how much I appreciate your educative posts.  I just never knew that in order to understand a case, I need to look at the evidence.  Thanks.

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Well you're the one who keeps bringing up the other subject, not me.

I'm just expressing how much I appreciate your educative posts.  I just never knew that in order to understand a case, I need to look at the evidence.  Thanks.

Which begs the question why you keep uploading podcasts by the CT!

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Which begs the question why you keep uploading podcasts by the CT!

I don't understand your question, sorry.  Not least, it's unclear what question you think I am begging.

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Any psychiatric hospitals in the vicinity or patients from elsewhere on some sort of visiting order?

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There is not a wealth of material in this case. It does not have the depth of information and documentation that exists in the Bamber case. The information that we have is about all there is. At face value you have to accept the Crown's case because there is no alternative perpetrator who has not been fully checked out. The only alternative to my mind is some deranged individual who planned and executed the crime. You should search and read 'Stocky man' threads on this forum.

Sandra has admitted she can post all the evidence on here. She has given us a few snippets and even that made Lukes guilt more apparent.

You dont want to end up like Nugnug. Spending 10 years on a wild goose chase because he fell for Sandra and Corrines BS hook line and sinker.

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Sandra has admitted she can post all the evidence on here. She has given us a few snippets and even that made Lukes guilt more apparent.

You dont want to end up like Nugnug. Spending 10 years on a wild goose chase because he fell for Sandra and Corrines BS hook line and sinker.
I do not accept your view. I am perfectly capable of researching this case. In fact I have and I have also come to the conclusion of who dunnit. It was QC. He dressed up in a kilt and instead of a surf board he used a kayak and entered the area by a local river. Please do not spout your own closed mind views here. You have no ideas worth spouting. I do not consider it a wild goose chase. It is possible that LM has something new since new legal representatives have been appointed.

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I do not accept your view. I am perfectly capable of researching this case. In fact I have and I have also come to the conclusion of who dunnit. It was QC. He dressed up in a kilt and instead of a surf board he used a kayak and entered the area by a local river. Please do not spout your own closed mind views here. You have no ideas worth spouting. I do not consider it a wild goose chase. It is possible that LM has something new since new legal representatives have been appointed.

I'm saying nothing.  I'm remaining silent.  I want a solicitor!  And a lie detector test!  Oh, and some magic mushrooms.

Wait....how do you know about the kayak?

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Do you mean not as much material was collected in the first instance or that we only have access to a limited amount?  I am assuming Dr Lean had more info for her book?  I haven't read the book btw. 

Why does anyone have to accept the Crown's case because an alternative isn't currently known about?

The authorities had Colin Stagg marked for the murder of Rachel Nickell but we now know it was actually Robert Napper.  Why can't a Robert Napper type be responsible here and just slipped under the radar as Napper did?

I agree that it could be an alternative culprit. However, this would need the case to be reopened by the police and that would likely require grounds. Stagg was freed by the judge before the trial started, because of the over zealous pursuit of Stagg and the 'Honey trap'. The true killer confessed 16 years later and had spent time in Broadmoor for a similar offence.

Though all local alternatives have been eliminated there just remains three remote suspects. Stocky man. Loiterer near the school at car with bonnet up. A person of interest who came to the attention of the police during the reconstruction.

I do not believe the volume of data comes anywhere near that of JB because of all the subsequent investigations and appeals.

The number of victims and the complexity of the crime scene also makes for big differences in evidence. Then there was the sheer number of officers involved etc. etc.  Need I go on?



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I'm saying nothing.  I'm remaining silent.  I want a solicitor!  And a lie detector test!  Oh, and some magic mushrooms.

Wait....how do you know about the kayak?

I happened to have a friend who was snorkelling in the river looking for crayfish and he spotted you. The game is up.

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Do you mean not as much material was collected in the first instance or that we only have access to a limited amount?  I am assuming Dr Lean had more info for her book?  I haven't read the book btw. 

Why does anyone have to accept the Crown's case because an alternative isn't currently known about?

The authorities had Colin Stagg marked for the murder of Rachel Nickell but we now know it was actually Robert Napper.  Why can't a Robert Napper type be responsible here and just slipped under the radar as Napper did?
That's a very good point CC, though statistically I'm sure it's remote. Don't respond to the abuse: we know the perpetrator who initiates then dismisses with disdain the notion that he is in any way responsible.