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Offline Armchair Detective

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Counting Conspiracies.
« on: January 04, 2022, 09:51:PM »
This is a list of conspiracies currently believed and/or promoted by JB and his official campaign team. Feel free to add any I have forgotten or disagree or hijack the thread with long standing personal vendettas that have no relevance to the case. I don't care.

I have tried to resist snarky comments but have failed in places, I think I am such a wit  :))

1) West, Bonnet, Myall, Saxby and Bews all conspire to hide evidence of Nevill already haven spoken to West from the moment JB eventually speaks to West himself. Other officers may also be involved. The evidence that proves this is shown to the jury.

2) Myall and Bews conspire to lie about the figure in the window. They hypnotise Jeremy into forgetting all about it for several months.

3) Bews radios in a situation report about the figure in the window and calls for armed back up. This information is immediately suppressed from all other officers subsequently at the scene in case they blab to Jeremy. 

4) 5.25 am - Sheila is in conversation with police, multiple officers conspire to keep this information from JB and suppress it afterward.

5) 6.09 am - At the exact time the BT operator transfers the open line to Maldon for monitoring, Sheila makes a 999 call. It is unclear if this vital information reaches the officers at the scene or if suppressing the 999 call is the action of one rogue cop. Nevertheless, despite suppressing this information, an ambulance is sent 18 minutes later which is proof of the call and not simply standard procedure for an impending raid where casualties are likely.

6) Throughout the 4 hours of the siege, lights are going on and off and curtains are being opened/closed. Multiple officers carefully watching for movement either fail in their duty to notice any of this or are inveigled into a plot to lie and state there were no signs of life.

7) Just prior to the raid, Sheila is seen through the kitchen window, dead. It is not at all possible that Nevill's body was simply mistaken for a woman's and a non eyewitness misunderstood the situation. 

8 ) As the raid team enter, a reanimated Sheila runs upstairs and shoots herself only once, although she is also still dead in the kitchen because a log entry written by a non eyewitness says so. Schrodinger's Sheila.

9) Some time later but after the police surgeon has been, Sheila is shot for a second time in a bumbling accident. The police panic and think that nobody will believe a two shot suicide and decide framing innocent Jeremy is the only option that definitely won't lead to 36 years of questions and scrutiny of their actions. The TFG statements saying they saw two wounds are clearly lies. Declaring it a murder suicide and giving evidence to that effect at the inquest was all a part of EP's scheme to make themselves look incompetent, thus hiding their mistake with a clever double reverse bluff.

10) A mysterious suicide note mentioned by S Jones. The note in the bible? The "Dear Mummy" letter? No, it can only be a completely different note that was hidden, probably under PII and whatnot because that's automatically dead suspicious.

11) Julie Mugford lies her head off about everything. It's unclear whether JB still says all of her flatmates were lying about the time of his apparently inconsequential and perfectly normal 3am call to Julie now that he has changed his mind about the order of the calls. (again)

11a) But Julie is only lying her head off because Stan Jones had something on her. And because she was a woman scorned. And because she is a horrible witch who should go to prison and be flogged. 

12) The relatives conspire to tell lies about horrid things Jeremy supposedly said because they were all greedy and hated poor Jeremy. Much more serious but unfounded allegations of evidence tampering are insinuated/telegraphed.

12b) The relatives also lie to the court about the inheritance, although an agreed note makes clear to the jury that PB will basically get the lot.

13) Several other witnesses also tell lies about the horrid things Jeremy has supposedly said about his parents and not sharing his inheritance. Although there appears no motive for them to lie, they are definitely lying and Jeremy is not. 

14) Michael Fielder and the Sun newspaper tell horrid lies about JB and BC trying to sell nude photographs of Sheila but this definitely didn't happen because JB says it didn't. It is not possible that JB didn't give all of the photographs to Colin and kept some back. No way. Uh Uh. So you believe a reporter from the sun do you? Yeah right, that's typical of guilters..

15) Everyone at the FSS lab lies to conceal the fact there were 2 silencers and lie about the results, it's not possible one silencer was given different exhibit numbers for innocent housekeeping reasons.

15b) Vanezis manages to miss or deliberately conceal wounds on Sheila and June and Prof Knight for the defence is also incompetent.

16) ITV and Carol Ann Lee conspire to make a TV drama to thwart jeremy's appeal because the CCRC are famously influenced by dramas on TV rather than the evidence.

17) Carol Ann Lee lies about the vet saying JB decided to put down Crispy. When CAL challenges the CT to publish the vet's statement and prove her wrong, the CT claim not to have it or have seen it. Animal lovers up and down the country indifferent to child murder start to hate poor Jeremy. Clearly a co-ordinated smear campaign.

18)Every Chief Constable of EP since 1985 has concealed the REAL evidence, although it doesn't matter because JB can already prove he is innocent so the CT don't bang on about it endlessly.

19) BT lie in court about whether they have any record of local calls made through the local exchange.

20) The bible went missing during the trial. The fact that it had obviously been closed and reopened while the blood was still wet would not have been detrimental to JB's case and had nothing to do with the apparent sudden loss of interest by the defence.

21) The destruction of Sheila's nightdress and other exhibits preventing further examination with modern forensic techniques.

22) Individual negatives removed from the previously complete strips. Are these simply photos of the boys that are of no particular value to JB's defence but must not end up in the public domain as other images have or is there something more sinister in this?

23) Ainsley and Cook STOLE photos and case documents and shared with Carol Ann Lee and Kris Mrksa the producer of WHF TV series before brazenly DESTROYING the evidence.

24) Bamber was STITCHED UP by the Police due to their attitude towards homosexuality, he had gay friends and could be gay himself!

25) Essex police used the crime scene as a training exercise with the victims in-situ. This definitely counters evidence of a staged scene that wouldn't be at all potentially disastrous for the defence to put before a jury when their client is accused of staging the scene.

26) The appeal court judges all conspired to keep Jeremy in prison even though he is obviously innocent. It's not that he brought a weak and hopelessly flawed case.

27) The police conspired not to tell JB about the lab rejecting Sheila's hand swabs because they may have been contaminated, even though any contamination would have aided Bamber's defence.

28) The police conspired not to tell Jeremy about the time they inspected his hands roughly a month after the shootings. It's unclear whether JB was present while this was done.

29) Pig skin fetishist and firearms expert Phillip Boyce disavows his own previous theory and this time really PROVES that Nevill was burnt by the aga while lying on his right hand side. Despite contradicting the pathology evidence, this can only mean that Nevill died in that position and was MOVED by the police for unspecified reasons. 

30) Parliament and the judiciary REFUSE to allow the results of polygraph testing which is completely infallible and definitely not pseudoscience

31) FREeMaSOnRy

TBC....   
« Last Edit: December 01, 2022, 04:01:PM by Armchair Detective »
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Re: Counting Conspiracies.
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2022, 09:54:PM »
Lookout will have an answer to each of these.
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Re: Counting Conspiracies.
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2022, 09:59:PM »
Lookout will have an answer to each of these.

Good. I need putting in my place.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2022, 10:04:PM »
How about adding the destruction of Sheila's nightdress, just when DNA technology could have solved the case one way or the other.

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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2022, 10:06:PM »
Images cut from strips of negatives and have never been disclosed.

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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2022, 10:09:PM »
How about adding the destruction of Sheila's nightdress, just when DNA technology could have solved the case one way or the other.

Images cut from strips of negatives and have never been disclosed.

Thanks Rob, I'll add them in now.
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2022, 10:11:PM »
Some officers from the raid team express concern that the crime scene has changed.

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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2022, 10:13:PM »
Thanks Rob, I'll add them in now.

Gringo has written some good posts about EP's curation of the negatives. BTW, CAL and the drama etc - that's a public opinion thing. If public opinion is 80/20, there's less appetite for any questioning of a rejection.

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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2022, 10:13:PM »
Points 11,12 and 14 can all be proven. Point 20 is completely wrong.

The rest are looney ideas no reasonable JB supporters believe in.

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Re: Counting Conspiracies.
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2022, 10:14:PM »
This is a list of conspiracies currently believed and/or promoted by JB and his official campaign team. Feel free to add any I have forgotten or disagree or hijack the thread with long standing personal vendettas that have no relevance to the case. I don't care.

I have tried to resist snarky comments but have failed in places, I think I am such a wit  :))

1) West, Bonnet, Myall, Saxby and Bews all conspire to hide evidence of Nevill speaking to West from the moment JB eventually speaks to West himself. Other officers may also be involved. The evidence that proves this is shown to the jury.

2) Myall and Bews conspire to lie about the figure in the window. They hypnotise Jeremy into forgetting all about it for several months.

3) Bews radios in a situation report about the figure in the window and calls for armed back up. This information is immediately suppressed from all other officers subsequently at the scene in case they blab to Jeremy. 

4) 5.25 am - Sheila is in conversation with police, multiple officers conspire to keep this information from JB and suppress it afterward.

5) 6.09 am - At the exact time the BT operator transfers the open line to Maldon for monitoring, Sheila makes a 999 call. It is unclear if this vital information reaches the officers at the scene or if suppressing the 999 call is the action of one rogue cop. Nevertheless, despite suppressing this information, an ambulance is sent 18 minutes later which is proof of the call and not simply standard procedure for an impending raid where casualties are likely.

6) Throughout the 4 hours of the siege, lights are going on and off and curtains are being opened/closed. Multiple officers carefully watching for movement either fail in their duty to notice any of this or are inveigled into a plot to lie and state there were no signs of life.

7) Just prior to the raid, Sheila is seen through the kitchen window, dead. It is not at all possible that Nevill's body was simply mistaken for a woman's and a non eyewitness misunderstood the situation. 

8) As the raid team enter, a reanimated Sheila runs upstairs and shoots herself only once, although she is also still dead in the kitchen because a log entry written by a non eyewitness says so. Schrodinger's Sheila.

9) Some time later but after the police surgeon has been, Sheila is shot for a second time in a bumbling accident. The police panic and think that nobody will believe a two shot suicide and decide framing innocent Jeremy is the only option that definitely won't lead to 36 years of questions and scrutiny of their actions. The TFG statements saying they saw two wounds are clearly lies. Declaring it a murder suicide and giving evidence to that effect at the inquest was all a part of EP's scheme to make themselves look incompetent, thus hiding their mistake with a clever double reverse bluff.

10) A mysterious suicide note mentioned by S Jones. The note in the bible? The "Dear Mummy" letter? No, it can only be a completely different note that was hidden, probably under PII and whatnot because that's automatically dead suspicious.

11) Julie Mugford lies her head off about everything. It's unclear whether JB still says all of her flatmates were lying about the time of his apparently inconsequential and perfectly normal 3am call to Julie now that he has changed his mind about the order of the calls. (again)

11a) But Julie is only lying her head off because Stan Jones had something on her. And because she was a woman scorned. And because she is a horrible witch who should go to prison and be flogged. 

12) The relatives conspire to tell lies about horrid things Jeremy supposedly said because they were all greedy and hated poor Jeremy. Much more serious but unfounded allegations of evidence tampering are insinuated/telegraphed.

12b) The relatives also lie to the court about the inheritance, although an agreed note makes clear to the jury that PB will basically get the lot.

13) Several others also tell lies about the horrid things Jeremy has supposedly said about his parents and not sharing his inheritance although there appears no motive for them to lie, they are lying.

14)Michael Fielder and the Sun newspaper tell horrid lies about JB and BC trying to sell nude photographs of Sheila but this definitely didn't happen because JB says it didn't. It is not possible that JB didn't give all of the photographs to Colin and kept some back. No way. Uh Uh. So you believe a reporter from the sun do you? Yeah right, that's typical of guilters..

15)Everyone at the FSS lab lies to conceal the fact there were 2 silencers and lie about the results,  Vanezis manages to miss or deliberately conceal wounds on Sheila and Prof Knight for the defence is also incompetent.

16) ITV and Carol Ann Lee conspire to make a TV drama to thwart jeremy's appeal because the CCRC are famously influenced by drama's on TV rather than the evidence.

17) Carol Ann Lee lies about the vet saying JB decided to put down Crispy. When CAL challenges the CT to publish the vet's statement and prove her wrong, the CT claim not to have it or have seen it. Animal lovers up and down the country hate poor Jeremy even more.

18)Every Chief Constable of EP since 1985 has concealed the REAL evidence, although it doesn't matter because JB can already prove he is innocent so the CT don't bang on about it endlessly.

19) BT lie in court about whether they have any record of local calls made through the local exchange.

20) The bible went missing during the trial. The fact that it had obviously been closed and reopened while the blood was still wet would not have been detrimental to JB's case and had nothing to do with the apparent sudden loss of interest by the defence.

21) The judge was really mean to Jeremy by implying he might be guilty, he should be struck off.

TBC....

Ainsley and Cook STOLE photos and case documents and shared with Carol Ann Lee and Kris Mrksa the producer of WHF TV series respectively.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2022, 10:14:PM by Munksa »

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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2022, 10:15:PM »
Some officers from the raid team express concern that the crime scene has changed.

A dopy officer uses the phone to dial out, so the last number redial facility cannot be checked.

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Re: Counting Conspiracies.
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2022, 10:20:PM »
Gringo has written some good posts about EP's curation of the negatives. BTW, CAL and the drama etc - that's a public opinion thing. If public opinion is 80/20, there's less appetite for any questioning of a rejection.

If JB wants the public to question a CCRC refusal, why has he not published their previous statement of reasons?

You don't seriously think the ITV drama was made purposely to undermine Bamber?
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2022, 10:22:PM »
Bamber was STITCHED UP by the Police due to their attitude towards homosexuality, he had gay friends and could be gay himself!



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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2022, 10:25:PM »
A dopy officer uses the phone to dial out, so the last number redial facility cannot be checked.

The only number with a 'last number dialled' option was the portable phone.

This was not working.
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2022, 10:27:PM »
Some officers from the raid team express concern that the crime scene has changed.

I don't think that is really a campaign thing and not all of the officers agreed. It kind of ties in with the court of appeal evidence from Mr Ismail that Sheila was moved post mortem and although the evidence of "the angle of her head not looking right" might suggest the police could have moved more than the gun and her arm as they admitted, it would be unwise to introduce evidence of a staged scene when Bamber is already accused of staging it.
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