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Offline Jane

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Re: The situation for Bamber when it was Sheila's turn to be shot.
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2021, 02:29:PM »
Not sure where i either read or perhaps it was on YouTube but I thought she had missed her last dose of medication? sorry if this is incorrect.


Oh dear! Those YouTubes!!! The latest suggests -nay! CLAIMS!!- that JB phoned a local radio station and asked them to phone the police!!! Sheila was due her next injection a few days after her return to London.

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Re: The situation for Bamber when it was Sheila's turn to be shot.
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2021, 02:32:PM »
Not sure where i either read or perhaps it was on YouTube but I thought she had missed her last dose of medication? sorry if this is incorrect.

That is not good enough Rob. As you very well know.
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Re: The situation for Bamber when it was Sheila's turn to be shot.
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2021, 02:33:PM »
Sheila's medication had recently been reduced just before the tragedy to half of it's normal dose Adam as you very well know, and I believe she had forgotten to take her last lot of medication.

I keep saying Sheila was also paranoid look it up please! She would have fought back as hard as she could!

Why?
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Re: The situation for Bamber when it was Sheila's turn to be shot.
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2021, 02:34:PM »
Sheila's medication had recently been reduced just before the tragedy to half of it's normal dose Adam as you very well know, and I believe she had forgotten to take her last lot of medication.

I keep saying Sheila was also paranoid look it up please! She would have fought back as hard as she could!

I did know. And?
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Re: The situation for Bamber when it was Sheila's turn to be shot.
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2021, 02:34:PM »
My word, you're on a roll Adam. How much is the promised payment ??

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Re: The situation for Bamber when it was Sheila's turn to be shot.
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2021, 02:38:PM »
No, it's not.  We've been over this before, many times. 

In their 2002 judgment, the Court of Appeal say that Sheila was "probably in a sedated state" and the drug she was on was known to have "sedative side effects at the levels prescribed".  But the judges had no expert opinion to rely on for these views.  Dr. Ferguson, in his statement of 9th. August 1985, states only that the drug would have had a slightly sedating effect, but he doesn't know what the effect was on Sheila because he had not seen her since her dose was lowered. 

You have no evidence to say that Sheila was sedated, assuming you even understand what the term 'sedated' means and its significance.  Sedated does not mean asleep.  There are witnesses to Sheila's general physical state on the 7th. August 1985, but these witnesses give us conflicting accounts.

Yes we have been over it before.

Sheila was on Haloperidol. Bamber also said she was unresponsive. Together with Sheila being unresponsive in the evening phone call.

But appreciate supporters want to have the option that Sheila put up some resistance. Not that she could stop a determined Bamber.
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Re: The situation for Bamber when it was Sheila's turn to be shot.
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2021, 02:44:PM »
The poll is open. Everyone will have an opinion of what Bamber had to do with Sheila, once the other 4 had been killed.

Supporters often say Sheila would be awake & would have fought back. I have doubts as the only noise was downstairs in the kitchen.

Feel free to give new suggestions & I can add.
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Re: The situation for Bamber when it was Sheila's turn to be shot.
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2021, 02:46:PM »
The poll is open. Everyone will have an opinion of what Bamber had to do with Sheila, once the other 4 had been killed.

Supporters often say Sheila would be awake & would have fought back. I have doubts as the only noise was downstairs in the kitchen.

Feel free to give new suggestions & I can add.

An already awake Sheila may not have fought back. Too scared & in shock.

Bamber was ready for any situation. He knew the rewards.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2021, 03:04:PM by Adam »
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Re: The situation for Bamber when it was Sheila's turn to be shot.
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2021, 03:30:PM »
She shot herself as the raid team was entering the house. Bamber was outside.

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Re: The situation for Bamber when it was Sheila's turn to be shot.
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2021, 03:37:PM »
She shot herself as the raid team was entering the house. Bamber was outside.

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Re: The situation for Bamber when it was Sheila's turn to be shot.
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2021, 03:58:PM »
Not sure where i either read or perhaps it was on YouTube but I thought she had missed her last dose of medication? sorry if this is incorrect.





Under half her usual dose, Rob, which would have been wearing off as she was nigh on due another injection.

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Re: The situation for Bamber when it was Sheila's turn to be shot.
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2021, 04:08:PM »




Under half her usual dose, Rob, which would have been wearing off as she was nigh on due another injection.

What do you believe Sheila was doing when it was her turn to be shot?

Still sleeping.

Awake & out of bed.
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Re: The situation for Bamber when it was Sheila's turn to be shot.
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2021, 04:12:PM »
What do you believe Sheila was doing when it was her turn to be shot?

Still sleeping.

Awake & out of bed.





You've lost the plot !

I have a different view and mindset to you.

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Re: The situation for Bamber when it was Sheila's turn to be shot.
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2021, 04:17:PM »




You've lost the plot !

I have a different view and mindset to you.

Bamber has been in prison for 36 years.

You have to accept there is a strong possibility   Bamber shot Sheila. Almost certainly last.

Do you believe Sheila would have fought back?
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Re: The situation for Bamber when it was Sheila's turn to be shot.
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2021, 04:27:PM »
Bamber has been in prison for 36 years.

You have to accept there is a strong possibility   Bamber shot Sheila. Almost certainly last.

Do you believe Sheila would have fought back?






I don't believe JB shot anyone so I don't support your arguments.