My Challenge To The Supporters

[lookout]

One minute it was a mix of June and Nevill's the next it belonged to Sheila because of the enzyme AK1, which was also found in RWB's grouping-------which is easy enough to work out since he was in attendance when the 17 baffle silencer was taken apart and how the cut finger of his came into being.
You'd have to know that the blood grouping was the same !

[killingeve]

I think it’s absolutely rubbish and to link Ann with this sort of behaviour without a shred of evidence is very very wrong and Libellous,I would have thought?

Well according to her statement DCI Ainsley did ask her how she knew it was menstrual blood and said something about if she didn't get it right at trial the defence would say she contaminated the silencer.  I guess this is where the theory originated from but there's no way such diluted blood could produce those results. 

[guest7363]

Well according to her statement DCI Ainsley did ask her how she knew it was menstrual blood and said something about if she didn't get it right at trial the defence would say she contaminated the silencer.  I guess this is where the theory originated from but there's no way such diluted blood could produce those results.

To accuse someone on a forum or online of actually doing it without any evidence that they’ve done it, I would still say it’s Libellous?  Would it not fall under defamation of Character as well?

[lookout]

Didn't AE say that it had a different smell ? And they believed her ?  Blood is blood and smells metallic because of its iron content. How gullible some people are !

[killingeve]

One minute it was a mix of June and Nevill's the next it belonged to Sheila because of the enzyme AK1, which was also found in RWB's grouping-------which is easy enough to work out since he was in attendance when the 17 baffle silencer was taken apart and how the cut finger of his came into being.
You'd have to know that the blood grouping was the same !

Bamber's defence at trial came up with the mixed blood theory because without that they pretty much had to concede defeat before the trial had even started.

The blood in the silencer matched Sheila's blood groups by way of a number of groupings not just AK1. 

The silencer had 15 baffles and there's no evidence Mr Boutflour snr ever handled the silencer under question.  The fact his blood groups matched is hardly surprising given 8% of the white British population share those groups.  No way he would know his groupings matched Sheila's. 

All supporters do is come up with crazy theories eg Mr Boutflour dripped his blood in or Mrs Eaton wrung out Sheila's period blood stained knickers which had been soaking in a bucket of water for around 3 days and dripped this in.  Utter madness. 

[guest7363]

Well according to her statement DCI Ainsley did ask her how she knew it was menstrual blood and said something about if she didn't get it right at trial the defence would say she contaminated the silencer.  I guess this is where the theory originated from but there's no way such diluted blood could produce those results.

Im not on about linking her to finding the Menstrual blood CC, I’m talking about actually accusing her of doing what David said she did?  She links herself to the silencer and a knickers which I’ve already pointed out?

[killingeve]

To accuse someone on a forum or online of actually doing it without any evidence that they’ve done it, I would still say it’s Libellous?  Would it not fall under defamation of Character as well?

Probably but its so ridiculous she would probably see the funny side and appreciate there are all sorts of cranks on the internet posting absolute rubbish.   

[killingeve]

Didn't AE say that it had a different smell ? And they believed her ?  Blood is blood and smells metallic because of its iron content. How gullible some people are !

How does the smell of the buckets alter anything?

[David1819]

Well according to her statement DCI Ainsley did ask her how she knew it was menstrual blood and said something about if she didn't get it right at trial the defence would say she contaminated the silencer.  I guess this is where the theory originated from but there's no way such diluted blood could produce those results.

The absorption elution method used to obtain those results involves diluting blood in water prior to testing it. Stop making an idiot out of yourself.

[guest7363]

The absorption elution method used to obtain those results involves diluting blood in water prior to testing it. Stop making an idiot out of yourself.

Before she did anything, she washed them and put them back into clean water again, hence even more diluting!

[guest7363]

Probably but its so ridiculous she would probably see the funny side and appreciate there are all sorts of cranks on the internet posting absolute rubbish.   

I agree 👍

[Jane]

There's a statement here from Sheila's GP regarding her medical history where advice was sought for minor physical issues. If she suffered from heavy periods then its likely she would have sought advice for such.  As she didn't I am assuming her periods were within the normal range which produces some 30ml to 72ml of menstrual blood over 3 to 8 days.  Therefore the amount of blood, little more than staining to the fabric, contained within a pair of knickers soaking in a bucket of water is completely out of the question as a means of contaminating the silencer.  Even if you tipped 72ml of blood into a bucket of water it would be insufficient to yield the results relevant to this case. 

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/periods/

This forum has been presented with pictures of menstrual blood -purporting/encouraging posters to believe it to be the norm, or why post them?- looking like lumps of liver. Mike always spoke of it in terms of her having had a 'heavy period' and described the knickers as being 'heavily stained'.

[lookout]

Bamber's defence at trial came up with the mixed blood theory because without that they pretty much had to concede defeat before the trial had even started.

The blood in the silencer matched Sheila's blood groups by way of a number of groupings not just AK1. 

The silencer had 15 baffles and there's no evidence Mr Boutflour snr ever handled the silencer under question.  The fact his blood groups matched is hardly surprising given 8% of the white British population share those groups.  No way he would know his groupings matched Sheila's. 

All supporters do is come up with crazy theories eg Mr Boutflour dripped his blood in or Mrs Eaton wrung out Sheila's period blood stained knickers which had been soaking in a bucket of water for around 3 days and dripped this in.  Utter madness.

As I'd already stated earlier that however and by whatever means blood entered the silencer, it will be revealed when/if this goes to appeal as Yvonne seemed to have been pretty confident that this part of the submission had been solved by their forensic team.

[killingeve]

The absorption elution method used to obtain those results involves diluting blood in water prior to testing it. Stop making an idiot out of yourself.

How many more times...absorption elution is used to identify the antigens eg A,B,O.  The enzymes and proteins in this case AK, EAP, HP and PGM are identified using a completely different method ie gel electrophoresis which requires a good quality blood sample of a certain size.

 

[Adam]

As I'd already stated earlier that however and by whatever means blood entered the silencer, it will be revealed when/if this goes to appeal as Yvonne seemed to have been pretty confident that this part of the submission had been solved by their forensic team.

I have already posted today how Sheila's blood entered the silencer -

Sheila received two contact shots in an area of high blood flow.

The aga paint got on it during the kitchen fight.

Keep up.