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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2021, 03:36:PM »
Thanks.

You don't see Grisham in CSI saying 'maybe this happened'.

He follows the evidence & says 'this did happen'.

There are other possible Bamber scenarios. CAL's differs to mine.

That statement is self-contradictory.

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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2021, 04:08:PM »
While Sheila took the gun upstairs to shoot June. Nevill rang Jeremy. Nevil ended the call and ran upstairs as he heard shots being fired. Sheila had fired five shots at June. She then pivoted and shot Nevill with the remaining four bullets in the magazine as Nevill came up the stairs.


One shell casing was found a few steps down the landing. I believe three of the shell casings from shots fired a Nevil bounced off the wall, while one went passed the door frame onto the landing area. As the reconstruction below illustrates



Thats ok on paper David, but if you look the shell cases didn’t go in that direction and you’ve got to account for a bullet fragment DRH5

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=4072

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Re: My Challenge To The Supporters
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2021, 04:51:PM »
Thats ok on paper David, but if you look the shell cases didn’t go in that direction and you’ve got to account for a bullet fragment DRH5

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=4072

Three casings on the floor and on the landing. It may be a crude reconstruction but its consistent with the evidence.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2021, 04:52:PM by David1819 »

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Re: My Challenge To The Supporters
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2021, 05:02:PM »
While Sheila took the gun upstairs to shoot June. Nevill rang Jeremy. Nevil ended the call and ran upstairs as he heard shots being fired. Sheila had fired five shots at June. She then pivoted and shot Nevill with the remaining four bullets in the magazine as Nevill came up the stairs.


One shell casing was found a few steps down the landing. I believe three of the shell casings from shots fired a Nevil bounced off the wall, while one went passed the door frame onto the landing area. As the reconstruction below illustrates



Why would Nevill call Jeremy and not Len Foulkes, John Seward or other discreet friends?

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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2021, 05:04:PM »
Three casings on the floor and on the landing. It may be a crude reconstruction but its consistent with the evidence.
No, on the contrary I think it’s rather good David, it doesn’t fit into the Sheila scenario of others who think Sheila shot Nevill because he tried to stop her shooting the Twins first, the bullet numbers and rapid fire don’t add up for that one. 

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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2021, 05:25:PM »
While Sheila took the gun upstairs to shoot June. Nevill rang Jeremy. Nevil ended the call and ran upstairs as he heard shots being fired. Sheila had fired five shots at June. She then pivoted and shot Nevill with the remaining four bullets in the magazine as Nevill came up the stairs.


One shell casing was found a few steps down the landing. I believe three of the shell casings from shots fired a Nevil bounced off the wall, while one went passed the door frame onto the landing area. As the reconstruction below illustrates



Why didn’t Sheila shoot Nevill while he was downstairs first on the phone and if he was too scared to confront her in the kitchen waving a rifle about and he had to phone Jeremy for help, why did he run upstairs without his gun/rifle or some implements to confront her. 

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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2021, 06:35:PM »
Why didn’t Sheila shoot Nevill while he was downstairs first on the phone and if he was too scared to confront her in the kitchen waving a rifle about and he had to phone Jeremy for help, why did he run upstairs without his gun/rifle or some implements to confront her.

That is a good point. A kitchen chair or stool would be easy to carry upstairs & protect his head & torso.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2021, 06:41:PM »
That is a good point. A kitchen chair or stool would be easy to carry upstairs & protect his head & torso.





What ? Protect himself with one arm out of action ? Dearie me you come out with some corkers.

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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2021, 06:43:PM »
Why didn’t Sheila shoot Nevill while he was downstairs first on the phone and if he was too scared to confront her in the kitchen waving a rifle about and he had to phone Jeremy for help.

Because that is simply is not how the events transpired. Sheila wanted to shoot to June, when Nevil came upstairs to help he became a target. This was a stochastic commotion not something though out rationally.

why did he run upstairs without his gun/rifle or some implements to confront her.

I don't think shooting your own daughter would cross anyone's mind in that situation.
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What ? Protect himself with one arm out of action ? Dearie me you come out with some corkers.
I was thinking more in terms of a poker or knife or something Lookout?

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« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2021, 06:49:PM »
Because that is simply is not how the events transpired. Sheila wanted to shoot to June, when Nevil came upstairs to help he became a target. This was a stochastic commotion not something though out rationally.
Oh she wanted to shoot June but keep Nevill alive, but because he tried unexpectedly to help June she shot him eight times and battered him for getting involved, even to the point of following him downstairs when he’d had enough.  Oh right.

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« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2021, 06:59:PM »
That statement is self-contradictory.

Big difference between 'maybe this happened' & following the evidence and saying 'this did happen'.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2021, 07:00:PM »




What ? Protect himself with one arm out of action ? Dearie me you come out with some corkers.

Nevill had not been shot when he went upstairs. In David's scenario.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: My Challenge To The Supporters
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2021, 07:01:PM »
Oh she wanted to shoot June but keep Nevill alive, but because he tried unexpectedly to help June she shot him eight times and battered him for getting involved, even to the point of following him downstairs when he’d had enough.  Oh right.

If the twins were already shot, Sheila would have to join them. I think if Nevill got in the way of that, Sheila would have no choice but to stop him in turn.

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« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2021, 07:03:PM »
Because that is simply is not how the events transpired. Sheila wanted to shoot to June, when Nevil came upstairs to help he became a target. This was a stochastic commotion not something though out rationally.

I don't think shooting your own daughter would cross anyone's mind in that situation.

So that's the thanks June got for cooking supper.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.