Podcast by Bamber's support group containing information about 03/21 submission

[killingeve]

That there are some dodgy " professionals " around who are only too willing to " do as they're told " under certain circumstances.

But is there any evidence that either pathologists are anything other than reliable experts?

Thnk about if for a moment?  Length of careers...claims over any sort of wrongdoing? 

If you have pathologists that have practiced for decades without any sort of disciplinary procedures bought to bear then why would they suddenly deviate from the norm with regard to the Bamber case?  And why hasn't any other pathologist countered their evidence?

[Rob_]

But is there any evidence that either pathologists are anything other than reliable experts?

Thnk about if for a moment?  Length of careers...claims over any sort of wrongdoing? 

If you have pathologists that have practiced for decades without any sort of disciplinary procedures bought to bear then why would they suddenly deviate from the norm with regard to the Bamber case?  And why hasn't any other pathologist countered their evidence?

Have you not heard of Spilsbury his evidence is now thought to be well .... His word alone meant you were doomed to meet the hangman.

[lookout]

But is there any evidence that either pathologists are anything other than reliable experts?

Thnk about if for a moment?  Length of careers...claims over any sort of wrongdoing? 

If you have pathologists that have practiced for decades without any sort of disciplinary procedures bought to bear then why would they suddenly deviate from the norm with regard to the Bamber case?  And why hasn't any other pathologist countered their evidence?

You've obviously never read the papers at all ! Not to worry, carry on in your own tin-pot way and continue to tail Adam, he's bound to be right because of all the evidence he's got.

[Roch]

But is there any evidence that either pathologists are anything other than reliable experts?

Thnk about if for a moment?  Length of careers...claims over any sort of wrongdoing? 

If you have pathologists that have practiced for decades without any sort of disciplinary procedures bought to bear then why would they suddenly deviate from the norm with regard to the Bamber case?  And why hasn't any other pathologist countered their evidence?

As a wider issue...

Do you think that UK security services (who are enmeshed within 'the state' ie 'Great Britain' etc.) are unable to call upon assistance from within the realms of judiciary; pathology; police; military; press / media?

Why would assume that all is well and as it should be or as it appears on the surface? 

Criminals are able to bribe, compromise and control police officers, jury members etc. It is no different for the state. 'The state' are essentially criminals par excellence.

[killingeve]

Have you not heard of Spilsbury his evidence is now thought to be well .... His word alone meant you were doomed to meet the hangman.

The Bamber trial involved 2 pathologist both of whom pretty much agreed on everything.  No pathologist has contested findings in the last 35 years.

[lookout]

It must be wonderful to live in an Ivory Tower within Shangri-La.

[David1819]

As a wider issue...

Do you think that UK security services (who are enmeshed within 'the state' ie 'Great Britain' etc.) are unable to call upon assistance from within the realms of judiciary; pathology; police; military; press / media?

Why would assume that all is well and as it should be or as it appears on the surface? 

Criminals are able to bribe, compromise and control police officers, jury members etc. It is no different for the state. 'The state' are essentially criminals par excellence.

If you are going to be a conspiratard Roch. Save it for the Mair thread please.

[killingeve]

As a wider issue...

Do you think that UK security services (who are enmeshed within 'the state' ie 'Great Britain' etc.) are unable to call upon assistance from within the realms of judiciary; pathology; police; military; press / media?

Why would assume that all is well and as it should be or as it appears on the surface? 

Criminals are able to bribe, compromise and control police officers, jury members etc. It is no different for the state. 'The state' are essentially criminals par excellence.

Why wound the state want to conspire against a 24 year old lad who was basically a farm hand on his father's farm?  He wasn't an investigative journalist or a political activist causing problems for the establishment. 

I came here thinking I might get my eyes opened but it seems I have to believe two pathologists conspired against Bamber; hitmen/freemason were involved; the relatives dismantled the silencer and tipped Robert Boutfflour's blood in and so it goes on.  To make matters worse you seem to take great offence when others, such as myself, dont share your views.  And when the submission quite rightly rejects Bamber's claims you lot will cry 'Oh the State have conspired against him'!  Honestly you could not make it up!

[killingeve]

It must be wonderful to live in an Ivory Tower within Shangri-La.

I live on planet earth but I do wonder about some of the folk here.

[David1819]

Why wound the state want to conspire against a 24 year old lad who was basically a farm hand on his father's farm?  He wasn't an investigative journalist or a political activist causing problems for the establishment. 

I came here thinking I might get my eyes opened but it seems I have to believe two pathologists conspired against Bamber; hitmen/freemason were involved; the relatives dismantled the silencer and tipped Robert Boutfflour's blood in and so it goes on.  To make matters worse you seem to take great offence when others, such as myself, dont share your views.  And when the submission quite rightly rejects Bamber's claims you lot will cry 'Oh the State have conspired against him'!  Honestly you could not make it up!

You don't have to believe the looney conspiracy theories put forward by Roch, BR, AA, BB and MT to believe JB is innocent. I don't. But you comment above makes a point how they do more harm than good and put reasonable people off commenting about the case.

[Roch]

Why wound the state want to conspire against a 24 year old lad who was basically a farm hand on his father's farm?  He wasn't an investigative journalist or a political activist causing problems for the establishment. 

I came here thinking I might get my eyes opened but it seems I have to believe two pathologists conspired against Bamber; hitmen/freemason were involved; the relatives dismantled the silencer and tipped Robert Boutfflour's blood in and so it goes on.  To make matters worse you seem to take great offence when others, such as myself, dont share your views.  And when the submission quite rightly rejects Bamber's claims you lot will cry 'Oh the State have conspired against him'!  Honestly you could not make it up!

Maybe you and David can explain how mafia and organised crime works, regarding control of officials across police / judciary etc.

I said as a wider issue. But if you think the state can't 'conspire to put somebody away' then you are incredibly naive. As is David.

[killingeve]

You don't have to believe the looney conspiracy theories put forward by Roch, BR, AA, BB and MT to believe JB is innocent. I don't. But you comment above makes a point how they do more harm than good and put reasonable people off commenting about the case.

I have read through NBG1066's posts and he seems to make some good points that Bamber's case might be a misarriage of justice so all is not lost.

Adam also makes some good points to support the case against Bamber. 

I haven't read many of your posts David.  Can you say briefly why you believe Bamber is innocent?

[killingeve]

Maybe you and David can explain how mafia and organised crime works, regarding control of officials across police / judciary etc.

I said as a wider issue. But if you think the state can't 'conspire to put somebody away' then you are incredibly naive. As is David.

Can you explain why the state would want to conspire against a farm hand?  Do you include all the defence lawyers in this? 

[Adam]

I have read through NBG1066's posts and he seems to make some good points that Bamber's case might be a misarriage of justice so all is not lost.

Adam also makes some good points to support the case against Bamber. 

I haven't read many of your posts David.  Can you say briefly why you believe Bamber is innocent?

David was a hardcore guilter.

He attempted a quiet stance change after Caroline & JaneJ  openly changed stance to guilty. So he could quote their 5 year old posts.

He eventually gave two reasons for a 360 degree U turn - no blood in the rifle barrel, no blood on Nevill's side of the bed.

[Bubo bubo]

Can you explain why the state would want to conspire against a farm hand?  Do you include all the defence lawyers in this?

You would do well to read more of what supporters have written. You are a lazy poster who mostly spouts the Crown case. I have said it before but to really understand the fine detail of this case you need to absorb  what others say. You are only testing the patience of posters with your lack of case knowledge which stands out like a sore thumb. If you spent more time reading than spouting you might come to understand the case a little bit better.