Louis Theroux

[Roch]

Is this the same game as knocky-door-neighbour?

[JackieD]

Hey, I like knock-knock ginger.  My big mistake was trying it at Adam's door at 3 a.m. one morning.

I wish

[guest29835]

I wish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

[killingeve]

The above is part of the submission to the CCRC.

Bamber has previously made 2 submissions to the CCRC both of which were rejected.  And I can assure you any such further submissions re the logs will go the same way.

PC West explained the logs in the recent Sky doc all of which stacks up with the paperwork: Bamber to PC West and PC West to Malcolm Bonnett.  There's no evidence whatsoever of a phone call from Mr Bamber Snr.

[killingeve]

You must be concerned to come on this forum.
You seem sure Jeremy is guilty?Why waste your time here. It’s a lovely day here in Maldon. I have just had a lovely walk with my dog

Interested yes; concerned no.

Do I?  How have you arrived at this conclusion?

Anyway glad you had a lovely day in Maldon walking your dog. 

[killingeve]

Hey, I like knock-knock ginger.  My big mistake was trying it at Adam's door at 3 a.m. one morning.

I had hoped I would grow out of it but it still gives me a buzz 

[killingeve]

Is this the same game as knocky-door-neighbour?

Maybe.  You knock on a door, run off and hide in a place where you can see the door and take delight in looking at the individual looking about to see who knocked the door 

[Roch]

Maybe.  You knock on a door, run off and hide in a place where you can see the door and take delight in looking at the individual looking about to see who knocked the door 

Where does the ginger come from? 

[JackieD]

Nothing in the documentary about Mike Ainsleys illegal behaviour

From Jeremys barrister

Discussing transparency in the case, Mr Stone said: “It’s a fact that the blood-based exhibits from Sheila Caffell’s DNA were destroyed by Essex Police in 1996.

“And one can say that was arguably the most important exhibit in the case. It isn’t simply a situation of one item being destroyed

The claimant was informed that… Michael Ainsley had taken back to his home address in 2010 more documents from the investigation and destroyed them.

"It’s significant given his position in the investigation and it’s significant bearing in mind he knew there were ongoing appeal proceedings.”


Myself I have read that Ainsley met the producers of the previous documentary and handed over further documents in a pub

I have also read that Ainsley went to work for the relatives after the conviction

[JackieD]

After QC and Lookouts recommendation I watched the podcast where it reminded me of Mugfords numerous cheque frauds

In 1986 the limit on writing cheques was £50. Julie committed fraud for a total of £900

Mugford committed fraud on 13 different occasions

[Rob_]

I did not realise that the relatives went to such extreme lengths to convince the police JB was responsible for the killings. I knew about the window and silencer but never knew they suggested the wet suit theory and the reason the tampons were downstairs was because JB used them to clean the gun etc.

I must admit this worries me a bit??

[David1819]

This was a very interesting part of the show I think -

https://streamable.com/0yv5im

[guest29835]

This was a very interesting part of the show I think -

https://streamable.com/0yv5im

What's interesting about that for me is that he has got hold of a full transcript of the judge's summing-up.  Between that interview and the Carol Ann Lee book, it is becoming clear we have not been told the truth about the availability of transcripts from the trial.  There is a lot more material in existence.

I think a pretty sensational documentary could be made from the pro-innocence point-of-view, if done professionally.

[David1819]

What's interesting about that for me is that he has got hold of a full transcript of the judge's summing-up.  Between that interview and the Carol Ann Lee book, it is becoming clear we have not been told the truth about the availability of transcripts from the trial.  There is a lot more material in existence.

I think a pretty sensational documentary could be made from the pro-innocence point-of-view, if done professionally.

He is a Barrister, I guess he would know how to get a copy?

All the bits we have of the summing up I have put together here - in no particular order.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9404.msg438059.html#msg438059

[JackieD]

This was a very interesting part of the show I think -

https://streamable.com/0yv5im

The most important and impartial part of the documentary

Ngb has always said this and that is why if you believe in a fair criminal justice system this cannot possible be overlooked

Piers Morgan has that clip