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chochokeira

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« Reply #165 on: March 26, 2011, 07:22:PM »
oh, ive just logged on after waking up and saw the question  :)


Not surprised you're tired  ;D

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« Reply #166 on: March 26, 2011, 07:25:PM »
oh, ive just logged on after waking up and saw the question  :)
You won a point though  ;) I was just trying to diffuse things. What about Sweden?

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« Reply #167 on: March 26, 2011, 07:29:PM »
stockholm, good job i have a globe infront of me  ;)

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« Reply #168 on: March 26, 2011, 09:44:PM »
oh, ive just logged on after waking up and saw the question  :)


Not surprised you're tired  ;D
From the 2002 judgment...(Using a radio link PC West contacted Malcolm Bonnet at the Chelmsford H/Q Information Room. PC West then spoke to the appellant again, who complained at the time the officer was taking. He said, “When my father rang he sounded terrified”. The appellant was told to go to the farm and to wait there for the police. PC West described the appellant as sounding “very laconic” and calm during the first part of their conversation and said that there was no sense of urgency. When he spoke to him again the appellant appeared “more urgent and distressed in his manner”).
The only one lying i believe is Bamber, he said my father sounded terrified yet his father called at 3-10 and took Bamber 10 minutes to find the number instead of dialing 999 and he also rang his girlfriend first, although when questioned again he said he rang the Police first, yet he drove that slow to the farm he nearly stopped. liars must have a Good memory, obviously he didn't.

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #169 on: March 27, 2011, 02:22:PM »
So the police took ten minutes to send a couple of police cars (with unarmed police) to WHF? What made them change their mind and send armed police? What's ten minutes when Julie saw no need to tell all to the police for several weeks?

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #170 on: March 27, 2011, 08:48:PM »
The timing of the telephone calls is a very interesting feature of this case, and it depends which references you refer to, on whether or not, you say for example, that JB contacted the police, at 3:36am, or 3:26am, or 3:10am, or even earlier...

Similarly, when looking at the question of when JB contacted JM that morning, it again would depend upon which references you chose to rely upon, as to the timing of that call, for example, 3:30am, 3:15am, or earlier at 3am?

There appear to be so many inconsistence and discrepancies surrounding these phone calls that no-one can accurately pinpoint when either of these calls were made, not the police, not Julie Mugford or her friends, and neither JB...

If JB is lying about the timing of the calls, then so are the police and Julie Mugford, and the others who refer to them - You cannot just single JB out and say that he is and has lied about the timing of the calls...

At, least not in my opinion...

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #171 on: March 27, 2011, 08:57:PM »
The timing of the telephone calls is a very interesting feature of this case, and it depends which references you refer to, on whether or not, you say for example, that JB contacted the police, at 3:36am, or 3:26am, or 3:10am, or even earlier...

Similarly, when looking at the question of when JB contacted JM that morning, it again would depend upon which references you chose to rely upon, as to the timing of that call, for example, 3:30am, 3:15am, or earlier at 3am?

There appear to be so many inconsistence and discrepancies surrounding these phone calls that no-one can accurately pinpoint when either of these calls were made, not the police, not Julie Mugford or her friends, and neither JB...

If JB is lying about the timing of the calls, then so are the police and Julie Mugford, and the others who refer to them - You cannot just single JB out and say that he is and has lied about the timing of the calls...

At, least not in my opinion...

Concur with that.  And what kind of police station has a clock allegedly running 10 minutes out of sync?  'Dixon of Dock Green' would turn in his grave. 

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« Reply #172 on: March 28, 2011, 11:00:AM »
Concur with that.  And what kind of police station has a clock allegedly running 10 minutes out of sync?  'Dixon of Dock Green' would turn in his grave.

The digital clock was not running ten minutes fast.

West stated that he misread the digital clock, there is no mention of a clock running fast.

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« Reply #173 on: March 28, 2011, 12:58:PM »
Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...

In order to fully appreciate the extent to which Mugford was prepared to go, in order to testify at Jeremy's trial, in favor of the prosecutions case against him, you will need to read two witness statements, one made by herself to COLP, ( in the name of J. Smerchanski, dated, 12th April 2002), another witness statement made by Susan Battersby (dated 7th may 2002), and the other, by the Bank Manager, (Alan George Dovey, dated 20th March 2002), which was also made to COLP...

You will be able to view the aforementioned witness statements, at the following links:-


Bank Manager, Alan George Dovey, dated, 20th March 2002:-

(1)  http://www.flickr.com/photos/miketeskowski/5309019477/in/set-72157625713336710/

Julie Mugford / SMERCHANSKI

(2) http://www.flickr.com/photos/miketeskowski/sets/72157625587945001/

K. Baxter, Press Complaints Commisssion

(3) http://www.flickr.com/photos/miketeskowski/5309064807/in/set-72157625713464040/

Susan Battesby - friend of Julie Mugford, and former lover of Jeremy Bamber

(4) http://www.flickr.com/photos/miketeskowski/5309064807/in/set-72157625713464040/


Are these links still available?

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #174 on: March 28, 2011, 05:32:PM »
Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...

In order to fully appreciate the extent to which Mugford was prepared to go, in order to testify at Jeremy's trial, in favor of the prosecutions case against him, you will need to read two witness statements, one made by herself to COLP, ( in the name of J. Smerchanski, dated, 12th April 2002), another witness statement made by Susan Battersby (dated 7th may 2002), and the other, by the Bank Manager, (Alan George Dovey, dated 20th March 2002), which was also made to COLP...

You will be able to view the aforementioned witness statements, at the following links:-


Bank Manager, Alan George Dovey, dated, 20th March 2002:-

(1)  http://www.flickr.com/photos/miketeskowski/5309019477/in/set-72157625713336710/

Julie Mugford / SMERCHANSKI

(2) http://www.flickr.com/photos/miketeskowski/sets/72157625587945001/

K. Baxter, Press Complaints Commisssion

(3) http://www.flickr.com/photos/miketeskowski/5309064807/in/set-72157625713464040/

Susan Battesby - friend of Julie Mugford, and former lover of Jeremy Bamber

(4) http://www.flickr.com/photos/miketeskowski/5309064807/in/set-72157625713464040/


Are these links still available?
I'm having the same problem finding Sue Batersby's statement??

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« Reply #175 on: March 28, 2011, 06:44:PM »
None of the four links seem to work. Maybe Mike has other links he can give us?

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #176 on: March 29, 2011, 11:03:PM »
None of the four links seem to work. Maybe Mike has other links he can give us?
any news on this?

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #177 on: April 02, 2011, 07:22:PM »
When JM went to the police she also revealed
          Her and JB's involvement with the Caravan site robbery
          Her involvement with JB's cannabis deals
          Her involvement in a £800 cheque fraud with her friend.

Hardly painting herself as Mother Teresa.
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No, but paving the way for her not to be charged so that she could give evidence on behalf of the prosecutions case...

I think that point is interesting.

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #178 on: April 04, 2011, 06:14:PM »
if julia mugford is telling the whole and complete truth about jermy bamber doesnt that make her an acomplice to murder.

acording to her she knew for months in advance that jeremy bamber was planing to kill his family so why did she not inform the police before he did it.

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #179 on: April 04, 2011, 06:21:PM »
if julia mugford is telling the whole and complete truth about jermy bamber doesnt that make her an acomplice to murder.

acording to her she knew for months in advance that jeremy bamber was planing to kill his family so why did she not inform the police before he did it.

Because she didn't think he was serious, so she's not an accomplice to murder. She could possibly have been charged with perverting the course of justice for witholding information when questioned, but that's about it I should think.