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Offline mike tesko

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Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« on: December 30, 2010, 09:07:PM »
Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...

In order to fully appreciate the extent to which Mugford was prepared to go, in order to testify at Jeremy's trial, in favor of the prosecutions case against him, you will need to read two witness statements, one made by herself to COLP, ( in the name of J. Smerchanski, dated, 12th April 2002), another witness statement made by Susan Battersby (dated 7th may 2002), and the other, by the Bank Manager, (Alan George Dovey, dated 20th March 2002), which was also made to COLP...

You will be able to view the aforementioned witness statements, at the following links:-


Bank Manager, Alan George Dovey, dated, 20th March 2002:-

(1)  http://www.flickr.com/photos/miketeskowski/5309019477/in/set-72157625713336710/

Julie Mugford / SMERCHANSKI

(2) http://www.flickr.com/photos/miketeskowski/sets/72157625587945001/

K. Baxter, Press Complaints Commisssion

(3) http://www.flickr.com/photos/miketeskowski/5309064807/in/set-72157625713464040/

Susan Battesby - friend of Julie Mugford, and former lover of Jeremy Bamber

(4) http://www.flickr.com/photos/miketeskowski/5309064807/in/set-72157625713464040/
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"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2010, 01:53:PM »
Court misled, about motives behind Mugford evidence

So, as it it turns out, she lied about her motives for wanting to give evidence, against Jeremy at his trioal - she was motivated by greed, and self-preservation, and in the pay of the News of the World. She and her mother, were even put up, during the trial, in a five star hotel, courtesy of the News of the World - what price Justice?

Mugford is a disgrace, and a significant burr, against the criminal justice  system - Guided by greed, and the desire to inflict as much hurt as possible, upon Jeremy, because she truly was a woman scorned...

Her evidence has truly, now been seriously undermined and discredited...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2011, 12:41:PM »
Julie Mugford didn't suddenly turn on Jeremy did she?

She spend the weekend before the murders with Jeremy at Goldhanger

It seems that things began to build up after the murders. I got all this info from the Appeal document so I assume it's correct.

The murders happened in the early hours of Wednesday 7th August.

Julie was taken to Goldhanger that morning, and Jeremy allegedly told her he should have been an actor. That same evening Julie allegedly asked Jeremy if he'd done it, and that's when she claimed he told her the story about Matthew MacDonald.

The weekend after the murders, Jeremy and Julie went to see Colin Caffell, and on Monday 12th she went back to Goldhanger with Jeremy.

The funeral for June and Neville was on the Friday 16th and Julie attended that.

On Saturday 17th August Jeremy and Julie went to Eastbourne for the weekend, and Julie claimed that she kept asking how he could have done all that and was concerned about how he was behaving.

The funeral for Sheila and the boys was on Monday 19th August which Julie attended. I'm not sure where that funeral took place.

Some time during that week Jeremy and Julie went to Amsterdam - possibly on Tuesday 20th. They came back on Tuesday 27th and Julie went to her own flat and told Susan Battersby what Jeremy had done.

On Saturday 31st August they met - not sure where - and Julie asked Jeremy if he loved her, and he said he didn't know. She said she felt bad about the murders and couldn't cope with his behaviour but he reassured her.

On Tuesday 3rd September they met at Sheila Caffell's flat for some reason. Julie once again brought up the murders and his behavior. Then an ex-girlfriend of Jeremy's phoned the flat and Julie heard him ask her out. They had a row.

On Saturday 7th September she went to the police and told them her story.



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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2011, 12:59:PM »
Once again, I'm 50/50 regarding the evidence of Julie Mugford. On the one hand, I find it hard to beleive that she would just carry on seeing someone who she thought had arranged the murder of his entire family, and that she would visit Colin Caffell, go to Eastbourne and Amsterdam, and appear so supportive at the funerals.

On the other hand, I find it hard to believe that she would up an entire story to get him sent down because he dumped her.

It's been assumed by many that Julie came up with this story because Jeremy dumped her, but according to the Appeal document she told Susan Battersby about it about ten days before she went to the police - before Jeremy dumped her.

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On 27 August Miss Mugford returned alone to her lodgings in London and she told her friend Susan Battersby of what the appellant had done.


Did Susan Battersby say that Julie had told her the story?

If Julie did tell her that Jeremy had arranged the murders, why did she do so? She had just been to Amsterdam with him  - did something happen there?

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2011, 01:18:PM »

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2011, 01:36:PM »
sheilas funeral was held along with june and nevilles at st nicholas church on the friday,Daniel and nicholas's funerals took place on the monday at highgate cemetary and was arranged by their father colin.

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2011, 01:38:PM »
sheilas funeral was held along with june and nevilles at st nicholas church on the friday,Daniel and nicholas's funerals took place on the monday at highgate cemetary and was arranged by their father colin.

Thanks. I wasn't sure about that. They were on 16th August and 19th August though weren't they?

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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2011, 01:41:PM »
carry2 i agree, also when mugford was cross examined by the defence in court she was making the situation as difficult as possible for the defence by breaking down into hysterics at the drop of a hat, only to immediately regain composure when questioned by the prosecution. shes a liar and knows it, awoman scorned!

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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2011, 01:45:PM »
hi kaldin,, im not sure of the dates, but the days are correct. sheilas ashes are actually buried with the twins at highgate cemetery.the twins also were interred in the same casket with sheilas ashes placed on top  of the casket at their heads.

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2011, 01:45:PM »
What about the psychology of it?

Let's just say that Jeremy did tell Julie before the murders that he wanted to kill his family. She wouldn't have taken much notice of that - she would just think he was being daft.

Let's say that he did tell her right after the murders that he got someone to do it. How would a reasonable person react to that? Remember that she said he didn't do it himself - he paid MacDonald to do it.

How would she react when the police told her that MacDonald couldn't have done it?  Would she have just thought Jeremy had made it up, or would she think he'd done it himself?


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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2011, 01:47:PM »
hi kaldin,, im not sure of the dates, but the days are correct. sheilas ashes are actually buried with the twins at highgate cemetery.the twins also were interred in the same casket with sheilas ashes placed on top  of the casket at their heads.

Thanks andrea.

The dates are correct I think, so it's just an indication of what Julie Mugford was doing between the day of the murders and the day she went to the police.

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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2011, 01:53:PM »
if u can kaldin try and get colin caffells book titled "in search of the rainbows end" its a very good book, it tells his personal journey through the tragedy, apart from jeremy, colin lost the most, his twins and sheila whom he still deeply cared for.

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2011, 01:57:PM »
if u can kaldin try and get colin caffells book titled "in search of the rainbows end" its a very good book, it tells his personal journey through the tragedy, apart from jeremy, colin lost the most, his twins and sheila whom he still deeply cared for.

Sounds good andrea. I think Colin Caffell gets forgotten about a bit in all this. He lost his two little boys after all.

If Julie did think Jeremy had got someone to murder the boys, I wonder how she could go and see Colin and look him in the face a few days later.

 

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Re: Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2011, 02:02:PM »
I don't think it's unnatural to be upset one minute and then composed the next. That would depend on the questions. Remember that the prosecution would be much more gentle with her than the defence.

If Julie had made up the story though, it would take a will of iron to stick to it throughout a lot of interviews, and tell the same story in court.

Why would she say Matthew MacDonald had done it if he didn't? Why not just say that Jeremy did it?

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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2011, 02:09:PM »
i will have another look through the book and let you know when the police broke the news to colin, i know that he was at home at the time, then his world fell apart.its an excellent book and colin is such an understanding person he is now a full time sculpture but did visit prisons round the country helping prisoners come to terms with their offences and that included murderers and sex offenders.

personally kaldin i think julie mugford knew all along jeremy was innocent and so was able to look and speak to colin without feeling guilt. she only went to the police when jeremy dumped her.i personally couldnt have slept and been near a man who had just wiped out 5 of his family especially the children, hence she knew he was innocent