The Silenced Rifle Did Not Fit Inside The Gun Cupboard

[ngb1066]

NGB, thanks for your kind words, I have never worked for the family, I have been accused of lots of things, I met the family through BHHP meetings, not to talk to about the case but about holiday parks, I have made this clear before, ever since I’ve been accused of being one of the family or friends, so I just go along with it now.  I have never PM Jackie and told her I worked for them, I might have said I met them through work,  in the one PM I sent her, I told how sorry I was for her in all the work she had done for Bamber and I thought he treat her bad and not to try and get her to change stance at all, because at the time I was more pro Guilt.  So everyone is now clear, I met the family at BHHP meetings.  Check in these posts NGB

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10072.msg465597.html#msg465597

Thank you for clarifying this RJ, and for the link to earlier posts. 

 

[JackieD]

Did you thank xxx when he set up a fake profile with name?

[ngb1066]

It’s not very nice being accused of something you haven’t done is it?
In fact it’s rude isn’t it and now Roch is asking me about bullying when I have suffered more than anyone on here
What attitude would you expect with what’s happened to me over the years

You get on with Real Justice because you don’t challenge him when he makes suppositions about Jeremy all the time
The fact are he just does not know but he’s happy to make things up just as the police were making stuff up in Bill Robertson’s post

I accept that in the past that you have been the victim of horrific internet abuse, along with some others. It was totally unacceptable.  However, RJ was not one of the ones responsible for that abuse and it is clear that he reached out to you by PM expressing sympathy for the way you had been treated.  That in my view was a kind gesture.  I get on with RJ because he seems a decent person to me.  We have discussed various topics unconnected with the case where we share a common interest.  We do not agree on the Bamber case, but he respects my opinions as I do his.  Just because someone has the opposite view to me does not mean that I have to hate the person or regard him as an enemy.

The purpose of the forum is intelligent debate.  This should be conducted respectfully even where arguments are robustly advanced.  I accept that we have had thoroughly nasty trolls here, and they are in a completely different category from the genuine member with whom we may disagree.

Of late there has been far too much personal vitriol and I hope it stops. 

[ngb1066]

Did you thank xxx when he set up a fake profile with name?

What do you think?  What has that to do with my thanks to RJ for clarifying the position, and in fact showing that your post which I had questioned was in fact incorrect?  I did not and do not suggest you were lying, but you were clearly mistaken as I suspected.

 

[ngb1066]

I left the forum out of respect for you NGB, I knew it would deteriorate into just an argument and there would be no end to it.  You have done so much for this site and me NGB I owe you the uttermost respect, so me not being here might help.

Regards

Justice

There is certainly no need for you to leave the forum RJ.  All viewpoints are welcomed here.  It is only the trolls who should go elsewhere.

[JackieD]

There is certainly no need for you to leave the forum RJ.  All viewpoints are welcomed here.  It is only the trolls who should go elsewhere.

You have described Mat as a troll but he was allowed to stay and infact weren’t him and RJ friendly although RJ was aware I was being bullied

[JackieD]

What do you think?  What has that to do with my thanks to RJ for clarifying the position, and in fact showing that your post which I had questioned was in fact incorrect?  I did not and do not suggest you were lying, but you were clearly mistaken as I suspected.

Well I was led to believe he worked with the family hence his loyalty and not interested in discussing the corruption in the JB case

[JackieD]

I accept that in the past that you have been the victim of horrific internet abuse, along with some others. It was totally unacceptable.  However, RJ was not one of the ones responsible for that abuse and it is clear that he reached out to you by PM expressing sympathy for the way you had been treated.  That in my view was a kind gesture.  I get on with RJ because he seems a decent person to me.  We have discussed various topics unconnected with the case where we share a common interest.  We do not agree on the Bamber case, but he respects my opinions as I do his.  Just because someone has the opposite view to me does not mean that I have to hate the person or regard him as an enemy.

The purpose of the forum is intelligent debate.  This should be conducted respectfully even where arguments are robustly advanced.  I accept that we have had thoroughly nasty trolls here, and they are in a completely different category from the genuine member with whom we may disagree.

Of late there has been far too much personal vitriol and I hope it stops.

Personal vitriol from who exactly

[guest7363]

You have described Mat as a troll but he was allowed to stay and infact weren’t him and RJ friendly although RJ was aware I was being bullied

Ive never sent Matt a personal pm I don’t think, I’ve hardly ever posted with Matt maybe a few times, I don’t know where you got that one from?  I’ve not always been on the forum, i tend  to leave on and off quite often for various reasons.  I can’t remember your Squabbles with everyone and I certainly didn’t know until late last year,  about your problem with Tim and I still don’t know really what went off?  I’ve hardly ever posted on Red about Bamber, I did join and post in another topic for a while a couple of months and then I left.

[guest7363]

Well I was led to believe he worked with the family hence his loyalty and not interested in discussing the corruption in the JB case

I have no loyalty with the Family and I have commented about the greed of Holiday park/ Landowners ect. This was a post to you before,

I don’t know how they treat their people Jackie I never worked there, if you read my posts I knew of them from BHHP that’s an association of Holiday park owners, I used to go to meetings and the general feel and it’s my personal view, I would treat customers better, it wasn’t just that holiday park, it’s every Caravan park throughout England, they all sing from the same hymn sheet.  My advice to anyone Don’t bloody buy a static unless your prepared to lose a lot of money when you leave.  They have every angled covered (not just them) that’s why I’m not a millionaire, I wouldn’t make as much money.

This was your reply

Yes I know exactly what you mean I know a couple of people who had static caravans there

[guest7363]

There is certainly no need for you to leave the forum RJ.  All viewpoints are welcomed here.  It is only the trolls who should go elsewhere.

Thanks NGB

[JackieD]

Ive never sent Matt a personal pm I don’t think, I’ve hardly ever posted with Matt maybe a few times, I don’t know where you got that one from?  I’ve not always been on the forum, i tend  to leave on and off quite often for various reasons.  I can’t remember your Squabbles with everyone and I certainly didn’t know until late last year,  about your problem with Tim and I still don’t know really what went off?  I’ve hardly ever posted on Red about Bamber, I did join and post in another topic for a while a couple of months and then I left.

Here you go again. Where have I said you exchanged pm messages with Mat ??

I have posted numerous times about Mats threats of violence to me and the fake account he set up in my name so I think it’s rich when comments are made about vitriol and probably aimed at QC

It’s one rule here for one and another for someone else

[David1819]

Here you go again. Where have I said you exchanged pm messages with Mat ??

I have posted numerous times about Mats threats of violence to me and the fake account he set up in my name so I think it’s rich when comments are made about vitriol and probably aimed at QC

It’s one rule here for one and another for someone else

What happens to Matt? he seems to have disappeared 

[Roch]

What happens to Matt? he seems to have disappeared 

Not sure but he was a thorough guilter from the off. Couldn't work him out.

[Roch]

I take that is a joke???

No it's not. I can empathise with your position on JB. I get your annoyance with certain posters. But you seriously need to reign it in.