The Silenced Rifle Did Not Fit Inside The Gun Cupboard

[guest7363]

Could you provide an example of my supposed 'arrogance', please?

Please quote from a post and also provide the link, so we can see the context of the post, including whether I was provoked by you or somebody else.

Thank you.

I think you calling me arrogant is very rich, quite frankly. 

In the post of yours that I quote above, you are arrogant.

In virtually everything you post on here, you are arrogant and dismissive.

I do not come on here ridiculing people with emoticons and dismissing people's views.  You are breaching the Forum Rules by doing so, and sowing discord.  But that is a matter for you.  If you want to do that, and if the moderators think you should be allowed to do so, then I will do the same back to you.

The same applies to Steve and Adam.

Steve is an abuser and a liar, and he will be abused back.

Adam is sarcastic and contemptuous towards other posters, and I give him the same back. 

I mention that important caveat just in case your examples of my 'arrogance' involve me dishing out to you and your friends what you dish out to others.

Forum Rules

No poster is to allege of another poster that they are personally a liar. 

Sarcasm should be overlooked, as long as it doesn't fall in to any of the above categories.  We can't police everything.

[Jane]

ARROGANCE -Dictionary definition of. A sense of superiority, self importance, or entitlement ie,to call others liars. Making claims or pretentions to superior importance or rights, eg "I am right -as usual".

[Adam]

Forum Rules

No poster is to allege of another poster that they are personally a liar. 

Sarcasm should be overlooked, as long as it doesn't fall in to any of the above categories.  We can't police everything.

The liar rule has long gone.

[Jane]

The liar rule has long gone.

Gone, or ignored?

[Adam]

Gone, or ignored?

I don't believe QC knew there was such a rule. When he started calling people liars he wasn't pulled up.

[JackieD]

I don't believe QC knew there was such a rule. When he started calling people liars he wasn't pulled up.

QC is an absolutely brilliant poster and I fully understand why he is here.

He wipes the floor with all the guilty/friends/relatives on the forum

He shows in great detail the obligations of our justice system and the failures in this case.  He is right up there with Gringo cutting through all the bullshit

He will be very famous and rich one day

[guest29835]

I don't believe QC knew there was such a rule. When he started calling people liars he wasn't pulled up.

Isn't the rule, or the spirit of the rule, that you can't use an accusation of lying, and similar, in lieu of an argument?  You'll see that if I call somebody a liar or say they're lying, it's because I think they have lied, it's not because I am in wont of an argument.

The distinction is important, I believe.  It's the difference between, on the one hand, abusing somebody, and on the other hand, simply making an observation about somebody's behaviour.

If you lie, then it's no good protesting when somebody calls you a liar.  What you should do is stop lying!

[guest29835]

Forum Rules

No poster is to allege of another poster that they are personally a liar. 

Sarcasm should be overlooked, as long as it doesn't fall in to any of the above categories.  We can't police everything.

Is there a Forum Rule that covers childish idiots who use emoticons to goad, dismiss and ridicule other people?

Are you familiar with the Parable that mentions motes and beams in eyes?  You're lecturing me about the Forum Rules in relation to your own behaviour.  You started the provocation.  You came on here dismissing and ridiculing me and showing disrespect and goading with your emoticons.

Please ask yourself, honestly: What sort of reaction do you expect from me?

Apart from the Forum Rules, there's a Rule of Life that says: If you dish it out, be ready to take it!  And if you can't take it, don't dish it out!

If you want to continue with this hypocrisy, Real Justice, then that's fine with me.  I'll just give you back what you dish out.

[guest29835]

ARROGANCE -Dictionary definition of. A sense of superiority, self importance, or entitlement ie,to call others liars. Making claims or pretentions to superior importance or rights, eg "I am right -as usual".

Perhaps you should also look up the word, 'usual'? 

[guest29835]

You are the worst poster on here. Always putting down me, Steve, Real Justice, Caroline, Jane & Hartley in long posts. The guilters.

But NGB & Mike are now the only moderators left. NGB saying he believes in 'intervening aa little as possible'. So this won't change. 

Only thing that bothered me was when you said I posted something. Then refused to quote the post. It's forum practice to quote people's posts if disagreeing.

If I am the worst poster on here, then I suggest you block or ignore me.

Actually, you and Steve have ruined this Forum in a planned and concerted effort over many years.

I see you now pretend to be civil, but that's a pretence.  You are nasty, sarcastic and poisonous.

I have been looking through the Red Forum too and I see that over the years you have made a stock-in-trade out of libelling, insulting and ridiculing people on this Forum from over there. 

So now you are going to get the same in return from me. 

You are a nasty, sarcastic bully, as well as being an obsessive weirdo who, like Steve, gets upset when Julie Smerchanski comes under criticism - an interesting thing I've noticed about you. 

Since you abuse others, you will continue to receive the same from me in return.

That is the way to deal with bullies like you - highlight your hypocrisy and dish out to you what you dish out to others.

Don't like it, do you?

[Steve_uk]

If I am the worst poster on here, then I suggest you block or ignore me.

Actually, you and Steve have ruined this Forum in a planned and concerted effort over many years.

I see you now pretend to be civil, but that's a pretence.  You are nasty, sarcastic and poisonous.

I have been looking through the Red Forum too and I see that over the years you have made a stock-in-trade out of libelling, insulting and ridiculing people on this Forum from over there. 

So now you are going to get the same in return from me. 

You are a nasty, sarcastic bully, as well as being an obsessive weirdo who, like Steve, gets upset when Julie Smerchanski comes under criticism - an interesting thing I've noticed about you. 

Since you abuse others, you will continue to receive the same from me in return.

That is the way to deal with bullies like you - highlight your hypocrisy and dish out to you what you dish out to others.

Don't like it, do you?

There's no conspiracy QC Chevalier. If you wish to play the victim that's up to you.

I wrote this on June 27 2014:


Julie: how could you possibly know enough about the family in October 1984 to differentiate between any of the family members who were subsequently slain, how could you possibly argue for Sheila and the boys on this occasion and in the same breath condemn the parents to die, letting the whole matter slip from your train of thought on any following occasion, especially the night of Tuesday 5th August 1985 when your boyfriend telephoned you with the message: "It's tonight or never.." knowing that the power of life and death was in your hands? How could you see Jeremy kitted out in Williams and Griffin and buy yourself a black dress from Miss Selfridge and go through the charade of the funerals with a mass murderer on your arm and be content a few days later to have Jeremy move a settee into your new address, whilst outwardly maintaining your composure? You say in your statement that you wanted to make Jeremy happy: is this just a complete communications breakdown, or is there something more sinister behind it all?

No I don't particularly like being called a weirdo or a creep. I get over it though.

[Adam]

If I am the worst poster on here, then I suggest you block or ignore me.

Actually, you and Steve have ruined this Forum in a planned and concerted effort over many years.

I see you now pretend to be civil, but that's a pretence.  You are nasty, sarcastic and poisonous.

I have been looking through the Red Forum too and I see that over the years you have made a stock-in-trade out of libelling, insulting and ridiculing people on this Forum from over there. 

So now you are going to get the same in return from me. 

You are a nasty, sarcastic bully, as well as being an obsessive weirdo who, like Steve, gets upset when Julie Smerchanski comes under criticism - an interesting thing I've noticed about you. 

Since you abuse others, you will continue to receive the same from me in return.

That is the way to deal with bullies like you - highlight your hypocrisy and dish out to you what you dish out to others.

Don't like it, do you?

The Red Forum. I don't post much on there. It is often very quiet.

The moderators are very strict so no possibility of anything untoward happening.

[guest29835]

There's no conspiracy QC Chevalier. If you wish to play the victim that's up to you.

I wrote this on June 27 2014:


Julie: how could you possibly know enough about the family in October 1984 to differentiate between any of the family members who were subsequently slain, how could you possibly argue for Sheila and the boys on this occasion and in the same breath condemn the parents to die, letting the whole matter slip from your train of thought on any following occasion, especially the night of Tuesday 5th August 1985 when your boyfriend telephoned you with the message: "It's tonight or never.." knowing that the power of life and death was in your hands? How could you see Jeremy kitted out in Williams and Griffin and buy yourself a black dress from Miss Selfridge and go through the charade of the funerals with a mass murderer on your arm and be content a few days later to have Jeremy move a settee into your new address, whilst outwardly maintaining your composure? You say in your statement that you wanted to make Jeremy happy: is this just a complete communications breakdown, or is there something more sinister behind it all?

No I don't particularly like being called a weirdo or a creep. I get over it though.

That post was directed at Adam, not you.  But taking it at face value, as usual with you, I don't see what point you are trying to make in relation to the point I am making about you, Adam and others.  You do seem fond of shifting the goalposts to avoid the point.

The point is simple:

You came on the Forum affecting to the neutral, or something similar, then in fairly short order you became a dogmatic pro-guilt person.

I know this, because I've read the relevant posts.

You are of course perfectly entitled to your views and it could be that you genuinely made up your mind.  That's your business.

I just find it interesting, especially when others noticed it at the time and it was commented on, and others have made the same observations about you that I have.

I don't like these unpleasant confrontations between us, but ultimately I didn't start the trouble between us.  You did. 

[guest29835]

The Red Forum. I don't post much on there. It is often very quiet.

The moderators are very strict so no possibility of anything untoward happening.

I'm not sure I agree.  It seems to me that there have been lots of problems on the Red Forum. 

The point in regard to yourself, which I see you don't deny, is that you are not in a position to criticise the posting habits of anybody.  You yourself are an abusive poster.  You know that full well.  The same applies to Steve, Hartley and Real Justice.

Instead of indulging in sermons about other people's behaviour, perhaps mend your own ways?  Good people are people who do good things, not people who boast about doing good or spend their time preaching to other people about it. 

[Adam]

I'm not sure I agree.  It seems to me that there have been lots of problems on the Red Forum. 

The point in regard to yourself, which I see you don't deny, is that you are not in a position to criticise the posting habits of anybody.  You yourself are an abusive poster.  You know that full well.  The same applies to Steve, Hartley and Real Justice.

Instead of indulging in sermons about other people's behaviour, perhaps mend your own ways?  Good people are people who do good things, not people who boast about doing good or spend their time preaching to other people about it.

Abusive?

Do you not believe Jackie is also an abusive poster?