Would Sheila Have Had To Be A Marksmen To Carry Out The Murders

[JackieD]

For over 30 years and while writing 2 books Colin Caffell has been under the assumption that Sheila could not be responsible for the murders because she didn’t know one end of a rifle from another and Sheila would have to be a marksmen

For over 30 years that is what he has believed

[guest29835]

For over 30 years and while writing 2 books Colin Caffell has been under the assumption that Sheila could not be responsible for the murders because she didn’t know one end of a rifle from another and Sheila would have to be a marksmen

For over 30 years that is what he has believed

My Sheila scenario has her running up the main stairs, with Nevill ending the call to Jeremy and chasing after her.  She turns and fires at Nevill, projecting cases on to the main landing and goes after him back to the kitchen, continuing to fire.  Nevill is trying to draw Sheila away from upstairs where June and the twins are.  Nevill tries to reason with her and they struggle for the rifle, probably in the foyer, with Sheila pushing Nevill back into the kitchen.  Nevill is already gravely injured, so ultimately Sheila prevails and kills him.  She then re-loads maybe twice more to kill June and the twins.  June might well have descended the stairs to try and establish what was going on and Sheila might have chased her back up to the master bedroom.  She probably shot June in two fusillades, allowing June to crawl around the bedroom in between.  She then washes and changes and kills herself.

To do this, she would have needed to be familiar enough with the rifle to know how to operate it.  That's all.

We know Sheila went on shooting trips and on at least one occasion she used a shot gun.  She wanted to have a go and fired it in the air.

Where does Colin say that it would have required a marksman?  I don't understand that as this took place indoors, virtually all the shots were at close or close-ish range, and bullets went astray.

Also, I think you mentioned before that Colin has claimed he was trying to get back with Sheila.  This ties in with what I had understood too, except that my understanding of it is that it was Sheila who was trying to get back with him and Colin told her emphatically the marriage would not be resurrected.  She spoke to him before they got to the farm.  I had thought the conversation was on the way there, but it looks like Colin makes no mention of such.  It could be that it was before the day of the drive out there, maybe at the party that Jeremy also attended.  The significance of it would be obvious.

[lookout]

I imagine after half a dozen shots Sheila would have felt well accustomed to using the rifle, even if she'd loaded it piece-meal rather than its full quota----not difficult to imagine with all the spilt bullets in the kitchen.
Show me a couple of times and I wouldn't need to rank myself a marksman/woman if I was a foot and less from my target.

[Caroline]

My Sheila scenario has her running up the main stairs, with Nevill ending the call to Jeremy and chasing after her.  She turns and fires at Nevill, projecting cases on to the main landing and goes after him back to the kitchen, continuing to fire.  Nevill is trying to draw Sheila away from upstairs where June and the twins are.  Nevill tries to reason with her and they struggle for the rifle, probably in the foyer, with Sheila pushing Nevill back into the kitchen.  Nevill is already gravely injured, so ultimately Sheila prevails and kills him.  She then re-loads maybe twice more to kill June and the twins.  June might well have descended the stairs to try and establish what was going on and Sheila might have chased her back up to the master bedroom.  She probably shot June in two fusillades, allowing June to crawl around the bedroom in between.  She then washes and changes and kills herself.

To do this, she would have needed to be familiar enough with the rifle to know how to operate it.  That's all.

We know Sheila went on shooting trips and on at least one occasion she used a shot gun.  She wanted to have a go and fired it in the air.

Where does Colin say that it would have required a marksman?  I don't understand that as this took place indoors, virtually all the shots were at close or close-ish range, and bullets went astray.

Also, I think you mentioned before that Colin has claimed he was trying to get back with Sheila. This ties in with what I had understood too, except that my understanding of it is that it was Sheila who was trying to get back with him and Colin told her emphatically the marriage would not be resurrected.  She spoke to him before they got to the farm.  I had thought the conversation was on the way there, but it looks like Colin makes no mention of such.  It could be that it was before the day of the drive out there, maybe at the party that Jeremy also attended.  The significance of it would be obvious.

There is no mention of Colin saying that Sheila wanted a reconciliation that I can find unless you have a source for it? He did mention after the murders that there may have been hope of 'getting something together again' but not that it was she who wanted it and him being emphatically opposed.


https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/minimal-entry-intvw-colin-caffell-sheils-ex-husband-news-footage/1131154434?adppopup=true

[lookout]

It was in Sheila's head that the thought of reconciliation might have been possible, but alas, Sheila's thoughts were all over the place.

[JackieD]

QC

As far as Colin goes I don’t think he’s been particularly honest because it seems he had a girlfriend but seemed to be leading Sheila on (see video) that they might be getting back together. That video where Colin discusses this seems a far cry from the silent journey to WHF with Sheila a place she hated.
As soon as Colin found out about the deaths he thought Sheila had committed suicide.
He recognised the state she was in but was obviously playing with her mind.
Maybe that last journey with Colin was the final straw.

[JackieD]

Where does Colin say that it would have required a marksman?  I don't understand that as this took place indoors, virtually all the shots were at close or close-ish range, and bullets went astray.


QC I will post the interview

[JackieD]

It was posted but looks like someone who looks after administration removed it
But I will find it again

[JackieD]

There is no mention of Colin saying that Sheila wanted a reconciliation that I can find unless you have a source for it? He did mention after the murders that there may have been hope of 'getting something together again' but not that it was she who wanted it and him being emphatically opposed.


https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/minimal-entry-intvw-colin-caffell-sheils-ex-husband-news-footage/1131154434?adppopup=true

Colin was cheating, he had a girlfriend (see the piss poor series based on the piss poor book by cal) and leading Sheila on

[guest7363]

Colin was cheating, he had a girlfriend (see the piss poor series based on the piss poor book by cal) and leading Sheila on

Piss Poor, does that mean when you miss the toilet?

[Jane]

It was in Sheila's head that the thought of reconciliation might have been possible, but alas, Sheila's thoughts were all over the place.

Given that she'd spent Saturday in the company of Colin and his girlfriend, Heather, her thoughts of any reconciliation were way off mark. They were divorced and had been separated for several years. Possibly seeing him with a long term girlfriend unsettled her.

[JackieD]

https://youtu.be/pUn9hIdNDVI    7 minutes in Colin has believed Sheila had to be a marksman to carry out the murders

[JackieD]

Just a reminder Colin’s words
From Colin Caffells


His relationship with Sheila was one of brotherly love. He was very proud of having a beautiful sister who was a photographic model

[JackieD]

Given that she'd spent Saturday in the company of Colin and his girlfriend, Heather, her thoughts of any reconciliation were way off mark. They were divorced and had been separated for several years. Possibly seeing him with a long term girlfriend unsettled her.

Jane or whatever you call yourself today listen to the video he was obviously leading Sheila on

[lookout]

Given that she'd spent Saturday in the company of Colin and his girlfriend, Heather, her thoughts of any reconciliation were way off mark. They were divorced and had been separated for several years. Possibly seeing him with a long term girlfriend unsettled her.

I think unsettled was an understatement.