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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2020, 08:31:PM »




I think unsettled was an understatement.






What kind of a sick individual would show off with the girlfriend while the ex-wife was there, and also knowing that she was suffering a depressive illness ?

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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2020, 08:32:PM »




I think unsettled was an understatement.


By "unsettled", I meant uncomfortable. Watching them share an intimacy that may have been similar -or even deeper- than the one they'd shared probably wouldn't have been easy. Maybe that's why she wanted to leave early.

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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2020, 08:34:PM »

By "unsettled", I meant uncomfortable. Watching them share an intimacy that may have been similar -or even deeper- than the one they'd shared probably wouldn't have been easy. Maybe that's why she wanted to leave early.





Like I said, he was a sick individual. I'd have punched his lights out.

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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2020, 08:36:PM »




Like I said, he was a sick individual. I'd have punched his lights out.
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2020, 08:40:PM »





What kind of a sick individual would show off with the girlfriend while the ex-wife was there, and also knowing that she was suffering a depressive illness ?

Lookout, she probably played a bigger part in the twin's life than Sheila. She may even have been living with Colin. Their relationship seems as if it was established. He can hardly be said to have been cheating on Sheila when they'd been apart and divorced for years. I'd have been FURIOUS if I was in a long term relationship and my partner asked me not to attend a gathering because his ex wife would be there, in fact M's ex wife and I were frequently at the same events and we got on well.

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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2020, 08:44:PM »




Like I said, he was a sick individual. I'd have punched his lights out.


Can you explain why you refer to him as "sick"? He and Sheila were forced to marry because she was pregnant. But for that, they'd probably never have married. Like so many forced marriages, it didn't work. Why Colin should take all the blame is beyond me.

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2020, 08:45:PM »
Lookout, she probably played a bigger part in the twin's life than Sheila. She may even have been living with Colin. Their relationship seems as if it was established. He can hardly be said to have been cheating on Sheila when they'd been apart and divorced for years. I'd have been FURIOUS if I was in a long term relationship and my partner asked me not to attend a gathering because his ex wife would be there, in fact M's ex wife and I were frequently at the same events and we got on well.






Colin really should have known better, knowing that Sheila was unwell. That was very likely the straw that broke the camel's back.

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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2020, 08:47:PM »
Mental illness was barely understood all those years ago and I can say that things haven't improved  that much since.

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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2020, 08:48:PM »




I think unsettled was an understatement.


Lookout I wonder what dates the zoo trips etc were taking place and how he fitted this in with the girlfriend

Julie Mugford coming up with her stories got him right off the hook as far as blame was concerened
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2020, 08:49:PM »
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As far as Colin goes I don’t think he’s been particularly honest because it seems he had a girlfriend but seemed to be leading Sheila on (see video) that they might be getting back together. That video where Colin discusses this seems a far cry from the silent journey to WHF with Sheila a place she hated.
As soon as Colin found out about the deaths he thought Sheila had committed suicide.
He recognised the state she was in but was obviously playing with her mind.
Maybe that last journey with Colin was the final straw.

Herbie, Heather's father, was like an unofficial 'uncle' (or in Colin's words, 'third grandfather') to the twins.  The relationship between Colin and Heather was stable.  I'm baffled by that part of the interview, but maybe he was just being nice to Sheila's memory and trying to avoid leaving people with the impression she was 'alone'.  Thinking about it, Sheila was in quite a sad situation.   

This man, to me, seems like somebody with a double personality: I'm betting he's a completely different person in private to how he comes across in public interviews, in which he is the shy-ish, artsy 'nice guy' from Cornwall with multi-coloured glasses.  He's like a mirror image of Jeremy: an actor essentially, not a transparent person.  Jeremy, I think, hid a vulnerable core behind brash self-confidence; Colin, I intuit, is very much the opposite, somebody who hides a much more strident personality behind a benign, slightly stumbling persona.  I wonder what he was like with Sheila in private?

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Colin really should have known better, knowing that Sheila was unwell. That was very likely the straw that broke the camel's back.
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So Colin, for the rest of his life, has to live with a woman he doesn't love, as a punishment for getting her pregnant? You've implied that Colin may have been responsible for her illness yet you want him to stay with her?

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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2020, 08:50:PM »
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I would have done---on Sheila's behalf. I can't stand by and watch things like that. He was horrible.

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« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2020, 08:50:PM »
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I would have done---on Sheila's behalf. I can't stand by and watch things like that. He was horrible.

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« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2020, 08:51:PM »





What kind of a sick individual would show off with the girlfriend while the ex-wife was there, and also knowing that she was suffering a depressive illness ?

They had been divorced since 1982, I doubt that by then she would be concerned about one of Colin;s girlfriends.
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« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2020, 08:53:PM »




I would have done---on Sheila's behalf. I can't stand by and watch things like that. He was horrible.


He couldn't give her what she needed. I wonder who could have. The same was true of a MUCH more famous couple and she wasn't pregnant when they married.