Did JM ever really love Jeremy Bamber?

[Jackiepreece]

vidvic answers about the knickers and I bet everyone of the women here would do the same thing throw them away

The bloody clothes would have been thrown away (it is my belief there is still something suspicious about that)



Vidvic how many selfless things do you know JB did and how much time did you spend with him to see this or is this another piece of "hearsay" from your friends the relatives

[vidvic]

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

What I mean is that their initial suspicions regarding JB's horrific actions have been found out to be true and he's been convicted of multiple murder in a court of law. Now regardless if there was or wasn't any animosity between the other relatives and Jeremy prior to his conviction, you can absolutely bet your life that there was, after his conviction. So it's hardly surprising that the statement to COLP six years later doesn't try to show JB in a particularly pleasant light, he's not so long ago murdered five members of their family in cold blood. 

Hartley re the above,  hasnt been found out to be true thats why the case is still under investigation and that is why law students are petitioning the ccrc to get more evidence released.  When everything is released to do with this case then we can have this discussion again.
It is true the relatives would like this to go away but its not is it!

Hartley are you aware juries make mistakes and Hartley are you aware Appeal Court Judges make mistakes and Hartley are you aware there have been numerous cases of miscarriages of justice

Jackie, he was found guilty at trial, he has lost 2 appeals and has had an initial application to the CCRC turned down. I think the ball is in JB's court to show that all of this is NOT true.

[vidvic]

vidvic answers about the knickers and I bet everyone of the women here would do the same thing throw them away

The bloody clothes would have been thrown away (it is my belief there is still something suspicious about that)



Vidvic how many selfless things do you know JB did and how much time did you spend with him to see this or is this another piece of "hearsay" from your friends the relatives

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you knew him well. My mistake.

[Jackiepreece]

Jerry I lost interest in anything you had to say when you bought up the porche question for the 100th time when you knew the answer


With regard to the statement you have posted exactly how does that prove JB hated his father



Vidvic yes the ball is in his court and I have never said any different

Vidvic do you think the relatives have told you the truth about their financial position at the time of the murders and if I could prove to you they had lied would you change your mind about JB being responsible for the murders

[curiousessex]

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

What I mean is that their initial suspicions regarding JB's horrific actions have been found out to be true and he's been convicted of multiple murder in a court of law. Now regardless if there was or wasn't any animosity between the other relatives and Jeremy prior to his conviction, you can absolutely bet your life that there was, after his conviction. So it's hardly surprising that the statement to COLP six years later doesn't try to show JB in a particularly pleasant light, he's not so long ago murdered five members of their family in cold blood. 

Hartley re the above,  hasnt been found out to be true thats why the case is still under investigation and that is why law students are petitioning the ccrc to get more evidence released.  When everything is released to do with this case then we can have this discussion again.
It is true the relatives would like this to go away but its not is it!

Hartley are you aware juries make mistakes and Hartley are you aware Appeal Court Judges make mistakes and Hartley are you aware there have been numerous cases of miscarriages of justice

Jackie

Whether you like it or not, in the eyes of the law Jeremy was found guilty in a court of law by a jury of 12 people who were there to do their duty and they found him guilty on a 10-2 verdict.

The jury could have included you or I.

May I ask if you had served on that jury would you have declared Jeremy innocent or guilty?

Jeremy is currently following due process as he has done previously.

[Jerry]

On the basis of events at Osea caravan site alone, Ann and the family would be entitled to despise Jeremy Bamber.

[vidvic]

Jerry I lost interest in anything you had to say when you bought up the porche question for the 100th time when you knew the answer


With regard to the statement you have posted exactly how does that prove JB hated his father



Vidvic yes the ball is in his court and I have never said any different

Vidvic do you think the relatives have told you the truth about their financial position at the time of the murders and if I could prove to you they had lied would you change your mind about JB being responsible for the murders

I would love to see this evidence, yes.

[Jackiepreece]

Curiousessex

Definately not guilty and I was on a murder trial previously.  I would be interested to know if any other forum members have been part of a jury at a murder trial because some of the people I was with did not take it seriously at all some just wanted to get home.

[Jackiepreece]

Vidvic good I am glad you are now showing an open mind.  I dont think you will have long to wait

[curiousessex]

Curiousessex

Definately not guilty and I was on a murder trial previously.  I would be interested to know if any other forum members have been part of a jury at a murder trial because some of the people I was with did not take it seriously at all some just wanted to get home.

Jackie

May I ask why you would have found Jeremmy not guilty if you had been a member of the jury at the original trial?

[vidvic]

Vidvic good I am glad you are now showing an open mind.  I dont think you will have long to wait

So, you don't have this evidence?

[vidvic]

Vidvic good I am glad you are now showing an open mind.  I dont think you will have long to wait

So, you don't have this evidence?

I take it this is the new 'dynamite' evidence yet to be posted.

[Jackiepreece]

Vidvic
Of course I have seen the evidence

[ngb1066]

Vidvic good I am glad you are now showing an open mind.  I dont think you will have long to wait

So, you don't have this evidence?

I take it this is the new 'dynamite' evidence yet to be posted.

Vidvic  - again I find your goading of Jackie unattractive to say the least, particular for a site "Global Moderator".  You are aware that Jeremy Bamber and his team have been concerned at new material being posted publicly, in particular on this forum, before they have had a chance to evaluate that new material properly.  Jackie is following the reasonable requests of Jeremy Bamber's team in this regard, as they do not want to set hares running and damage the work which they are carrying out.  You should respect this rather than ridicule it.

[Jackiepreece]

Curiousessex
Jeremy was convicted mainly on the silencer and JM testimony and never in a million years could I have found JB guilty on JM s evidence.  I might have had doubts on certain things but there was not enough evidence to convict JB and I have spoken to people that were in court that they were surprised he was convicted.