Did JM ever really love Jeremy Bamber?

[Jackiepreece]

Mwah xxx

[ngb1066]

vidvic answers about the knickers and I bet everyone of the women here would do the same thing throw them away

The bloody clothes would have been thrown away (it is my belief there is still something suspicious about that)



Vidvic how many selfless things do you know JB did and how much time did you spend with him to see this or is this another piece of "hearsay" from your friends the relatives

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you knew him well. My mistake.

Vidvic  - I tried to post a reply to this earlier but it was lost.  I do not think that your sarcasm with Jackie does you justice, or set the right tone for this forum.  You know very well that Jackie has only had limited contact with Jeremy, starting several years after his trial.  That contact has until very recently been limited to letters and even now is only extended to an occasional telephone call.  You on the other hand have been on close friendly terms with the family for many years and have been able to discuss this case, and Jeremy Bamber in particular, on numerous occasions face to face.  Please try to be be fair.

 

[Jackiepreece]

Vidvic I dont know how much of an expert you are with guns but if you read NGB s posts you might understand how this happened


Vidvic said
Read the actual descriptions of what was done to the victims.....Arc of bullets into one of the twins heads, Nevill's injuries to his face, all done by Sheila? A woman whom Jeremy himself admitted to having never seen fire a gun as an adult. How many times did she load the magazine? You try doing it! It's bloody hard going! And by Sheila? Yeah right!

[curiousessex]

Curiousessex

Definately not guilty and I was on a murder trial previously.  I would be interested to know if any other forum members have been part of a jury at a murder trial because some of the people I was with did not take it seriously at all some just wanted to get home.

Jackie

Thanks.

What, for you, was wrong with the silencer and JM evidence in the original trial.

It may be easiest to reply to the silencer part first as I have sensed how passionate you are regarding JM.

[vidvic]

vidvic answers about the knickers and I bet everyone of the women here would do the same thing throw them away

The bloody clothes would have been thrown away (it is my belief there is still something suspicious about that)



Vidvic how many selfless things do you know JB did and how much time did you spend with him to see this or is this another piece of "hearsay" from your friends the relatives

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you knew him well. My mistake.

Vidvic  - I tried to post a reply to this earlier but it was lost.  I do not think that your sarcasm with Jackie does you justice, or set the right tone for this forum.  You know very well that Jackie has only had limited contact with Jeremy, starting several years after his trial.  That contact has until very recently been limited to letters and even now is only extended to an occasional telephone call.  You on the other hand have been on close friendly terms with the family for many years and have been able to discuss this case, and Jeremy Bamber in particular, on numerous occasions face to face.  Please try to be be fair.

NGB, bearing in mind the abuse and personal attacks I've had to endure from Jackie, please allow me a little sarcasm. But I take your point.

[vidvic]

Vidvic I dont know how much of an expert you are with guns but if you read NGB s posts you might understand how this happened


Vidvic said
Read the actual descriptions of what was done to the victims.....Arc of bullets into one of the twins heads, Nevill's injuries to his face, all done by Sheila? A woman whom Jeremy himself admitted to having never seen fire a gun as an adult. How many times did she load the magazine? You try doing it! It's bloody hard going! And by Sheila? Yeah right!

NGB answered this all by himself Jackie.

[Jackiepreece]

Vidvic
So now Ngb has explained things do you accept Sheila could be responsible

[Jerry]

Jackie's personal opinion of Julie Mugford is simply that, a personal opinion. 

There is no evidence to suggest that Julie was anything other than frank in her interviews with police or that the evidence she freely gave at Jeremy's trial was other than factual and honest.

For Jackie to state otherwise is just sour grapes.

[vidvic]

Vidvic
So now Ngb has explained things do you accept Sheila could be responsible

NGB has his view and I respect that, but I am yet to see one single piece of evidence to suggest Sheila had the knowledge to use any of the weopons in the house. Zilch. There is no one the has ever seen her use a gun, handle a gun and only ever Jeremy that suggested otherwise and the retracted it. Would you know how to fire it? Reload it? Unjam it? I fired 7.62 SLR's in the RAF and wouldn't have a clue with this rifle.

[Jackiepreece]

Curiousessex its difficult for me to answer properly because I cant remember exactly what information was at trial and what has become available since but with the silencer I dont believe JB would have put it back in the cupboard after and added to everything regarding forensics etc when the relatives took the silencer home I couldnt have found JB guilty on that and as for JM how do you seperate the lies for the truth maybe I just find it unbeleivable that someone would sleep with someone if they knew they had instigated the murder of two little boys.  Yes I will never forget that and just now I have read Ann Eaton saying JM was a long time viewing the bodies of everyone and was smoking heavily.  Where were tears from this women she sounds like the coldest hardest women I have ever read about.
The cheque fraud she didnt need the money why do that why risk everything. No I could not believe anything she said.  When I was on jury service I asked so many questions the other jurors must have been so fed up with me but I didnt care I was disgusted with how they couldnt wait to get home.
If you take JB out of the equation and put in an anonomous figure I would still feel so strongly about
everything around this case. The way the police handled it the way the case was handled at Appeal the way the ccrc have behaved.  If this case is made into a documentary on main stream television most of the general public would be appalled at what has happened.  Just a couple of days ago I was contacted by someone very important who is handling two miscarriages of justice cases and I am working with him as well he is much more important than me but I have more contacts in the media I think things will improve but its going to be something as big as this for a change to come.

[Jerry]

Julie Mugford never lied in court and it is disingenuous of you to infer that she did.

[Jackiepreece]

Well what a profound statement for you to make Jerry!

Best you jog along to the ccrc and tell them they are wasting their time investigating this case

Jerry you could save us millions

[chochokeira]

Vidvic
So now Ngb has explained things do you accept Sheila could be responsible

I think certain members here who shall be nameless have already accepted that, Jackie. That's why the wagons are circling around you so closely. Keep them guessing, you are so good at that! Good to see ngb riding shotgun

[Jackiepreece]

Thanks Chocho it was 3 against me at one  point I was doing my best and along came my hero !

[chochokeira]

Thanks Chocho it was 3 against me at one  point I was doing my best and along came my hero !

When they do that, talk about anything but what they want you to discuss. Talk about the weather, they'll soon get fed up.