Did JM ever really love Jeremy Bamber?

[Jackiepreece]

Vidvic

Lets say books and manuscripts then are you saying Roger Wilkes book is definate facts and everything in his book is proven to be true because I have never ever said that about David Shaws manuscript

[bob]

Vidvic

Lets say books and manuscripts then are you saying Roger Wilkes book is definate facts and everything in his book is proven to be true because I have never ever said that about David Shaws manuscript

Does Wilkes' book include detailed sources?

I only ask because I dismiss the Shaw manuscript for that very reason - it could be a pure work of fiction given that it does not attribute anything it claims as "fact" to any source (we've been here before of course!) 

[Jackiepreece]

Vidvic

It was only after things were overheard being told to the police that doubts started to emerge and the events of that night were questioned.What was overheard Vidvic and where is this stated

[vidvic]

Vidvic

It was only after things were overheard being told to the police that doubts started to emerge and the events of that night were questioned.What was overheard Vidvic and where is this stated

Jackie, I have already answered this. Do not insult my intelligence with repeated questions which you already know the answer to.

[Jackiepreece]

Bob
What happens constantly on this forum is certain things are stated as fact when this is not true and this consitantly happens from the people who think JB is guilty and I just want to get to the bottom of why this keeps happening

Somehow we are led to believe JB hated his father because they had a shouting match once
it is just laughable I cannot believe what wickedness came out of Ann Eatons mouth she is even trying to make out what Granny Speakman thought of Jeremy.  I hope she reads this forum what a vile person what a nasty bunch of relatives to be adopted into

[vidvic]

I hope she reads this forum what a vile person what a nasty bunch of relatives to be adopted into

And there you go.......

[Jackiepreece]

Vicvid no I dont know the answer I am asking you politely please answer that question it will take you two minutes to reply

[Jackiepreece]

I am quite happy with that get her on the phone and tell her


Could you answer my question

You cant can you

[Hartley]

What happens constantly on this forum is certain things are stated as fact when this is not true and this consitantly happens from the people who think JB is guilty and I just want to get to the bottom of why this keeps happening

Get out of here Jackie, you and others kept on stating as fact that Ann took blood soaked clothes home to Oak Farm, you then used this as a tool to try and show Ann's behaviour as abnormal, I've since corrected you all on that score.

The same deal with describing Junes bike as a bone shaker.

Does Pot, kettle, black spring to mind?

I think this consistently  happens from the people who think JB is innocent as often (actually I think a lot more often).

[vidvic]

I am quite happy with that get her on the phone and tell her


Could you answer my question

You cant can you

Jackie, you well know that the quote comes from Julie Mugford's statements

[Jackiepreece]

vidvic why do you continually make things up you are making yourself look stupid again this is what you said

(2)  What was overheard being told to police
This is well documented.

(3)  By who
Ann, David, Bobby. Again, well documented.


so have you changed your story and are you now saying it was Mugford

Explain yourself when you make statements about the above

[Jackiepreece]

Hartley I will accept about Ann Eaton taking clothes away might not be accurate but I am still looking into that she has at least stated she washed the clothes but I dont think we will ever know the truth about what happened there except once again Ann Eatons weird behaviour washing a dead womens clothes.  We have no proof either way.


Can you fill me in what I am supposed to have said about the bike because I have not please post details now

[Hartley]

Can you fill me in what I am supposed to have said about the bike because I have not please post details now

Yes I can. See below.

I just told that story to my friend but I was laughing so much it took me twenty minutes this is the most ridiculous situation I have ever experienced I don't think Essex police had a brain between them can you imagine it.  I haven't heard them do one single thing right in this case but Chocho won't it be brilliant when the person who said it wouldn't be a problem turns up for the reconstruction

Do you think  we could find a boneshaker from somewhere

[Hartley]

To be fair though Jackie, I was referring to others regarding the bike.

[Jackiepreece]

Thankyou Hartley I dont know the sea wall so I couldnt comment but Chochokeira knows the area well and she believes it was too dangerous for JB to have left the farm that way