Did JM ever really love Jeremy Bamber?

[chochokeira]

Choc, your quotes seem to have gone a bit awry, but I think I can see which is your post.

I think following JB's conviction, he would not have been permitted to sell his story.

Hi Harters,

Thanks for reminding me of that, of course he wouldn't.

[Hartley]

Chochokeira thankyou for your info house in the clouds we must go there one day.

I need some help I am trying to find out how I can get hold of Roger Wilkes I dont think he is on twitter and he is not on Wickipedia have you got any ideas where I can find him?

Thanks

You could try via his publisher.

[Roch]

I am trying to get hold of a copy of Innocent Man as I've not read it yet.

Vic, this link to a cached webpage on the sleuthing for justice site contains Shaws manuscript although it's incomplete, I'm not sure if there is a better version floating around somewhere.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jP4ZtW5Off0J:www.sleuthingforjustice.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D74%26t%3D2445

The Shaw Manuscript looks like a first draft to me.  Like a work in progress that... has been abandoned.  I prefer the private communications.  Though not all have been posted on here yet.

[Jackiepreece]

Hartley I have just managed to get this 72 page document up on my computer where are the copies of the statements taken the day of the murders

[curiousessex]

I am trying to get hold of a copy of Innocent Man as I've not read it yet.

Vic, this link to a cached webpage on the sleuthing for justice site contains Shaws manuscript although it's incomplete, I'm not sure if there is a better version floating around somewhere.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jP4ZtW5Off0J:www.sleuthingforjustice.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D74%26t%3D2445

The Shaw Manuscript looks like a first draft to me.  Like a work in progress that... has been abandoned.  I prefer the private communications.  Though not all have been posted on here yet.

I seem to recall some sections are also very similar, almost verbatim, with content that is included in Roger Wilkes' book 'Blood Relations'.

[Hartley]

Hartley I have just managed to get this 72 page document up on my computer where are the copies of the statements taken the day of the murders

Mike has copies of them, but as far as I'm aware they haven't been made available on the forum.

[curiousessex]

Hartley I have just managed to get this 72 page document up on my computer where are the copies of the statements taken the day of the murders

Mike has copies of them, but as far as I'm aware they haven't been made available on the forum.

Correct.

I have been asking Mike to make available to the forum Jeremy's original witness statement for sometime. Mike will not make them available because of PII (joke).......... rather something to do with some personal details Jeremy mentioned about Colin Caffell in his witness statement.

[vidvic]

Vidvic sorry I missed your answer about the books.You have already said that Roger Wilkes supports the relatives but you are quoting something as if it was fact do you know has Roger Wilkes got a website where I can ask a direct question


You make the statement Roger Wilkes appears to have changed his mind from innocent to guilty.
You are in close contact with the relatives who are in contact with Roger Wilkes

So does he think JB is Innocent or Guilty

Maybe he will post on our forum

I met Roger Wilkes at the 2002 appeal. I don't believe he has ever gone on record either way.
But a fact, and JB will confirm this i'm sure, is that JB was very pissed off about the book.

[Jackiepreece]

Vidvic I am looking for this


It was only after things were overheard being told to the police

What on earth are you talking about what page

[vidvic]

Vidvic I am looking for this


It was only after things were overheard being told to the police

What on earth are you talking about what page

Jackie, this is from real life conversations. There is no page reference.

[Jackiepreece]

I am working my way through this crap as said in a statement to the police in 1991 and if thats the state of our justice system god help us all.  I will start to systematically tear the whole thing apart it is ridiculous.

Lets start with Nanny Speakman has photos of us all in her bedroom but I dont recall one of Jeremy???

Did she or not what a twisted nasty person Ann Eaton is.
I would like to know what other forum members think of that

Jeremy and Neville did not get on I heard them shouting at each once???
Unbelievable

We have never spoken about the murders since they happened
Unbelievable

Julie was in the mortuary for a long time and when she came out she said they all looked peaceful and smoked heavily??
No tears then

Ann speaks in detail about Sheila but cant tell one twin from the other???


Vidvic where is the evidence that JB told JM "he should have been an actor" or is that just wild speculation??

Hartley as you seem to have all the documents to hand can you tell me around what time did JB allegedly say "he should have been an actor" and JM subsequent trip to the mortuary

[vidvic]

Vidvic about the books?


So your statement regarding journalists is misleading

Jackie, do I take it that Shaw's work is unpublished?

So your statement regarding 'Books' is misleading?

[Jackiepreece]

Vidvic
You made the statement just tell me what did they over hear to make them change there mind about JB I only need a sentance

[Hartley]

Hartley as you seem to have all the documents to hand can you tell me around what time did JB allegedly say "he should have been an actor" and JM subsequent trip to the mortuary

Unfortunately not, if you remember, it is Mike who apparently has all the documents.

Maybe you could ask him to post the original statements so that we can all view them?

[Hartley]

Vidvic about the books?


So your statement regarding journalists is misleading

Jackie, do I take it that Shaw's work is unpublished?

So your statement regarding 'Books' is misleading?

Yes Vic that is correct.