Brett Collins

[Kaldin]

She doted on him for the most part, acted as ersatz mother and confidante, did his laundry and decorated the house. Yet there was an incident in a supermarket regarding a bar of soap, so she could answer back at times.

Regarding Christmas 1982- this is not the paragraph I was looking for but does confirm Colin had stayed at White House Farm before:

All of a sudden, Ann broke into our thoughts and came in. She said they had thought it better to put the room back the way Bambs had it. Rather than leave it empty, after the twins' beds had been removed, they brought Bambs's old bed back in. "Have you seen this?" asked Ann, pointing out some words scratched into what looked like new paint on the wardrobe door. "I HATE THIS PLACE," it said. I then remembered the police asking me about it, but on seeing those words I felt as if I had seen them before, in the last year or so-probably when I stayed at Christmas, although I couldn't be absolutely sure. I guess Bambs must have written it out of frustration on one of her earlier, more anguished visits. It seemed sad but now quite unimportant.

I'm confused. Where were they when this happened?

[Steve_uk]

No I meant did Julie ever steal from you as she was involved in numerous illegal activities

I never met Julie.

[Steve_uk]

I have never heard Julie claim he has written nasty letters to her .


So you must mean Colin ?


Any others ?

Why isn't Jeremy shouting to the rooftops that Julie lied on oath?

[JackieD]

I never met Julie.

I don’t believe you

Its a disgrace she was ever allowed to work with children isn’t it

From what you believe she’s as bad as Maxine carr

[Steve_uk]

Which nasty letters

Reply #1202

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7101.1200.html

[ngb1066]

Why isn't Jeremy shouting to the rooftops that Julie lied on oath?

He and his campaign team have made absolutely clear their view of Julie Mugford and the evidence she gave. 

[Steve_uk]

I don’t believe you

Its a disgrace she was ever allowed to work with children isn’t it

From what you believe she’s as bad as Maxine carr

Some people are misguided on this forum but I would never directly call you a liar.

[lookout]

Whether she likes it or not she'd still be an accessory if JB was guilty. If it's true that she'd known for months, as she'd stated, that Jeremy was planning to do away with his family and never said anything. Or is she lying ? Take your pick.

[Steve_uk]

I'm confused. Where were they when this happened?

I'm not sure what you mean. Julie and Jeremy had a tiff about a bar of soap in a supermarket and it landed in Jeremy's face instead of the trolley. The extract in italics is Ann showing Colin round the Farm post-murders.

[lookout]

What a piffling observation ! All added to the case ? Flying soap.

[Steve_uk]

Storm Ciara is hitting Manchester now, a deluge of rain even for this city.

It seems to have passed off now: https://youtu.be/g7tuDGAOOl0

[lookout]

Why isn't Jeremy shouting to the rooftops that Julie lied on oath?

Nobody would listen nor believe him.

[TheBrilliantMistake]

Nobody would listen nor believe him.

You do. Others do. More don't.

[Steve_uk]

Nobody would listen nor believe him.

He can't counter the allegation that he loathed his parents because he told it to people other than Julie, he can't counter the allegation that he speculated about the Farm burning down at Christmas 1984 because he told Michael Deckers, he can't counter the allegation that he labelled the twins spoiled brats because he told Liz Rimington.

Don't you see that he has nothing whatsoever to counter the allegation that he was planning to kill five members of his family, because it's true..

[Roch]

“The idea that his sister would shoot the family, put the silencer away in the cupboard, and then shoot herself is just crazy.”

Seems he has been influenced by info outside his own experience.

Agreed.