Brett Collins

[ngb1066]

Don't be silly. The last person who claimed such parameters in debate was Luminous Wanderer and he did make himself appear ridiculous. The fact is that Jeremy Bamber akin to David Bain both refuse to acknowledge the discord in their respective families because of the deluge of hatred this would unleash, leaving the average person in the street fully aware of why the murders occurred in each case.

There may have been some discord but it is not a central issue in the case. 

[Steve_uk]

I have said it before that you are connected to Julie Mugford but you have never said how

This has been dealt with at least three times before. We were employed by the same employer, the ILEA (Inner London Education Authority) in the 1980s. We both had stressful careers it seems, though I never resorted to sleeping pills, or any central nervous system stimulants come to that apart from caffeine in coffee. I have never met her. You can believe this or not.

[lookout]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7982223/Girlfriend-evidence-helped-jail-Jeremy-Bamber-White-House-Farm-murders.html

Blimey, yet another sweetener in the offing eh ? Is there no end to this blood money ??

[Steve_uk]

There may have been some discord but it is not a central issue in the case.

Neither is Julie's News of the World deal, or Jeremy's own deal for a greater sum, come to that.

[JackieD]

This has been dealt with at least three times before. We were employed by the same employer, the ILEA (Inner London Education Authority) in the 1980s. We both had stressful careers it seems, though I never resorted to sleeping pills, or any central nervous system stimulants come to that apart from caffeine in coffee. I have never met her. You can believe this or not.

But you used to spend time with her group of friends? Did you have to be careful around her because of her dishonesty?

[ngb1066]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7982223/Girlfriend-evidence-helped-jail-Jeremy-Bamber-White-House-Farm-murders.html

Thank you Jan.  I had missed this.

[Steve_uk]

Blimey, yet another sweetener in the offing eh ? Is there no end to this blood money ??

This isn't a new interview but sensationalism for sensationalism's sake. I'm sure Julie will not let Jeremy wreck her life as Colin is likewise so determined.

[Steve_uk]

But you used to spend time with her group of friends? Did you have to be careful around her because of her dishonesty?

Jackie now you are making yourself look silly. I thought you always stuck to facts, not speculation.

[ngb1066]

Neither is Julie's News of the World deal, or Jeremy's own deal for a greater sum, come to that.

Julie's News of the World deal certainly is an important issue and undoubtedly will feature in any future appeal.  Jeremy's deal is not relevant at all.  The reasons for the clear distinction have been explained fully several times in the past.  The fact that you refuse to acknowledge the position makes no difference.

 

[TheBrilliantMistake]

People thought Myra Hindley to be an intelligent affable woman.
Ted Bundy was a highly intelligent and extremely charming man.

Killers don't have a tattoo on their head saying 'bad killer inside'.

It doesn't make someone a liar that they found JB to be of sound character, or JM to be of dubious character - that was their own impression. Others found the opposite. Some folks like me, others don't.

The nature of JB relationship with his parents is a factor to the possible motive. We will likely never really know his true feelings towards them, and it may well be a mix of love and hate (as countless young men and women might attest to their own relationships with parents). It's not unusual to hate your parents.

The question isn't 'do kids who hate their parents kill them?' - because we know very well that most don't.
It is more a case of 'does someone who kills their parents, tend to hate them?' and they typically do.

[Steve_uk]

Julie's News of the World deal certainly is an important issue and undoubtedly will feature in any future appeal.  Jeremy's deal is not relevant at all.  The reasons for the clear distinction have been explained fully several times in the past.  The fact that you refuse to acknowledge the position makes no difference.

..and Julie gave a statement about that deal in 2002, which you evidently refuse to acknowledge.

[JackieD]

Jackie now you are making yourself look silly. I thought you always stuck to facts, not speculation.

I thought Julie carried out a cheque book fraud with a friends cheque book.
I wondered if you had any similar problems around her.

[TheBrilliantMistake]

how do you know someone had already been shot?

I don't.
That is why I gave both options. IF she had already shot someone, then the call ought to have said 'she's shot someone'
If she had NOT shot someone, yet was going berserk, why did June, and the twins not wake up?

Furthermore, with either option, her 'berserk' behaviour was not particularly random, she shot each at close range, in what could only be described as a fairly controlled and logical manner, whilst not shooting at any other object - which is at odds with 'berserk'

[JackieD]

The difference with me Steve I was asking a question.you consistently post comments on here as if they were facts but they are only your opinion

[Steve_uk]

I thought Julie carried out a cheque book fraud with a friends cheque book.
I wondered if you had any similar problems around her.

No I have never been in trouble with the law. I believe 11 million adults in the UK have a criminal record, but I'm not one of them, fortunately.