Det. Supt. 'Mick' Ainsley - oversight of corrupt practices

[Roch]

Can anyone please find a link to the Terezon letter? Not having any luck in search mode.

[Bubo bubo]

The shot between the eyes would have been after the person had died---where you wouldn't need to have been a marksman. One of the twins had also been shot between the eyes too.

Sorry lookout but Nicholas received three shots to the face. None was between the eyes. Two were off centre and the other to the cheek. We can argue whether the shot to June was pre or post mortem. I have other evidence regarding this shot which I will post in due course.

[Roch]

..the innocent posters are able to post any such crap they want and go unchallenged, I personally think this is what they wanted..

To be fair RJ, it's QC and David who have went against Steve UK and Adam. You are defending David and QC is a guilter.

[JackieD]

Im pleased you’ve commented NGB, I was going to but I thought what’s the point. Now there aren’t any guilty posters posting, the innocent posters are able to post any such crap they want and go unchallenged, I personally think this is what they wanted and  to be honest, there is only David challenging.

Wrong QC challenges

[Roch]

Can anyone please find a link to the Terezon letter? Not having any luck in search mode.

I found the Terezon letter and David is correct regarding the photo of Nevill's forearm not being mentioned. So I acknowledge that. However, I am certain I have read somewhere that the defence were originally informed that a photo didn't exist, until the photo eventually came to light. So I will try and find out where this claim was.

[guest7363]

Wrong QC challenges

Oh right, he takes the piss that’s all.  He does it with Adam and he did it with Steve.

[Bill Robertson]

I really do not believe that.

It is simply a case of abuse of power and obstruction. I was assured that Jeremy would not be allowed to view the wounds discovered and to the best of my knowledge he has not seen them.

[ngb1066]

It is simply a case of abuse of power and obstruction. I was assured that Jeremy would not be allowed to view the wounds discovered and to the best of my knowledge he has not seen them.

If that really is the case legal action should be taken against the prison (i.e. through the Home Office) to require that Jeremy be allowed his rights as a prisoner to see all of the case related material.  He cannot be denied the right to see anything provided by his legal team and communications from them cannot be inspected or impeded in any way.  It is true that there are categories of books and images which are not allowed to a prisoner but only where that is not case related material.  He is entitled to see and I know he has seen all of the photographs released at different stages by Essex Police and the CPS.  He also saw high definition images following the release of the negatives by Essex Police at the direction of the CCRC in 2011.  I really do doubt the information you have been given on this, although to be clear I do not doubt what you say you have been told.
 
 

[David1819]

Can anyone please find a link to the Terezon letter? Not having any luck in search mode.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,618.msg13754.html#msg13754

[David1819]

I found the Terezon letter and David is correct regarding the photo of Nevill's forearm not being mentioned. So I acknowledge that. However, I am certain I have read somewhere that the defence were originally informed that a photo didn't exist, until the photo eventually came to light. So I will try and find out where this claim was.

The marks on Nevils arm was brought up at trial.

[Roch]

The marks on Nevils arm was brought up at trial.

They were. However, it is still bugging regarding that photo. I will do some digging when I have a chance.

[Adam]

Re HLM, it's mentioned in Wilkes, across about four pages approximately between 308-312.

The thing is David, it's not just Sheila who had non-disclosed wounds. It's June and Nevill also. And didn't Terezon also complain regarding an originally withheld photo of Nevill's forearm?

What I think should be done by the defence / campaign team is to have nondescript diagrams drawn up of each adult, including Jeremy, with all none-bullet wounds indicated, for comparison. It is clear that there was a life or death struggle that night. Jeremy is unmarked. How would Sheila emerge from such carnage unmarked and without any traces of the other two adults?

What non disclosed wounds did Nevill have?

[David1819]

She shot them using a weapon designed for vermin control. Allegedly. She is supposed to have clubbed Nevill so hard, the stock broke. She is supposed to have mutilated Nevill's corpse. He had numerous bullet wounds, and head injuries and his head bled profusely. Nevill was ex-RAF and farm-fit. Both Grandparents were aware that their Grandchildren were upstairs, in their care, at their home, during their watch.

A .22 long rifle is still a lethal weapon. Of course Nevills head was bleeding he was shot in the head four times.

[Roch]

A .22 long rifle is still a lethal weapon. Of course Nevills head was bleeding he was shot in the head four times.

Yes. So given that, and given that she clubbed him and later mutilated him, how did she manage that without obtaining a trace of evidence upon her person?

[David1819]

Yes. So given that, and given that she clubbed him and later mutilated him, how did she manage that without obtaining a trace of evidence upon her person?

Any small amount of blood spatter that could have ended up on her, could not have been DNA tested as such technology didn't exist back then.